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Trust me, I’m lying: “Christian” truth tellers Quayle and Hagmann strike back with veiled threats, character assassinations, provide nothing to refute my NSA and SWAT corrective reporting

24 February 2015 75 Comments

Here we are, over four months later, after I initially corrected myself for erroneously reporting Doug Hagmann’s and Steve Quayle’s false NSA targeting allegation that was reported in Judi McLeod’s Canada Free Press at her request. Instead of apologizing to me, their audiences, and correcting, Quayle and Hagmann have done it again.

Cloaked as Christian “watchmen,” they manufactured another fear-based, devastating, fake controversy to keep their trusting, loyal audiences fired-up, and from looking at the real issue—their false NSA and SWAT allegations.

They are trying to accomplish this by turning me and Michael Erevna of Revelationnow.net into the latest evil boogiemen—who are out to get them.

By dishonestly linking and vilifying us, while casting themselves as blameless victims, Quayle and Hagmann have generated outrage, sympathy, and prayers for themselves. That’s the Saul Alinsky playbook. Does Hillary Clinton’s Vast Right Wing Conspiracy ring a bell?

On February 10, 2015, Quayle/Hagmann published Setting the Record Straight: Joint Response Addressing the Character Assassinations Underway, and they appeared on: Hawk and Steve Quayle on The Hagmann and Hagmann Report radio broadcast.

When you read what they wrote, listen to what they said, and compare it with my reporting, in reality, Quayle and Hagmann have backed up my reporting. Indeed their NSA targeting and SWAT allegations were false. As I will document, as they documented, they provided no proof to the contrary—that is what their malicious, actionable, damaging character assassination is really about.

Compare their joint statement, side by side, with my correction articles. That is the quickest way to see the truth. Here they are:

1. Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?
2. Steve Quayle exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation is fake
3. Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake.


Quayle and Hagmann have falsely accused me of so many terrible things I can barely keep up.

On the radio broadcast on “BlogTalkRadio, the largest social radio network in the world,” for instance, Quayle and Hagmann deceitfully and recklessly accused me of making “threats” against them and their families, of “harassment,” and “stalking.” They menacingly claimed what they were sharing with their audience was the “tip of the iceberg (38-40 min).” (Listen on Youtube)

As usual, Quayle and Hagmann have provided no proof of their ludicrous lies, because what they claim is physically impossible. We live in different parts of North America. But why get stuck in common sense and reality when you can bombard the air waves with lies to see what sticks? It’s the “Christian” truth tellers, and as their “brethren” say, “Touch not my anointed.”

Michael’s crime, as best as I can tell, is he picked up 2 out of my 3 correction stories. Michael and I work independently. He is not responsible for my words. I am not responsible for his. Neither of us are responsible for the actions or statements made by other commentators.

Yet Quayle and Hagmann condemned us, together, for things we did not do. For instance, I did not post a photograph of Steve Quayle’s house. Neither did Michael. There are no pictures of Quayle’s house on my website, but according to Quayle, apparently, I am magically responsible for something I didn’t do that he claims has caused him and his family harm.

READ Michael’s heavily documented rebuttal, shredding all of Quayle and Hagmann’s false, injurious allegations against him: Hagmann/Quayle: REVENGE of the Money Changers! Also see: Reality Check #6: Well-coordinated campaign?

Quayle and Hagmann’s wild accusations mounted. I was defamed and called, at different times, a “stalker,” “sociopath” “psychopath,” and a “government operative.” Hagmann told me at 2 hours and 13 minutes in a sinisterly threateningly voice and in no uncertain terms, “The line has been drawn. Don’t cross it.”

Quayle and Hagmann also used scripture to defame us as well. For example, Quayle repeated the scripture, Ananias and Saphria, three times (32 min). While I’m not a bible expert, that involves people dropping dead. Quayle talked about the ground opening up, in reference to Moses, and his opponents, falling into the pit of hell (56 min). Quayle put out a call for their audience to stand up for them against us (44 min). I didn’t know I was in a war with them. I’m just a journalist who corrected a false allegation when I obtained evidence it was false. I never should have reported their NSA targeting allegation.

Quayle and Hagmann scared their trusting, loyal, predominately Christian audience by warning them that anyone who comes near me (and Michael/our websites) of having “dark matter.” They said, and also cited: “”Be careful little eyes what you read,’ because destructive forces seek to contaminate your mind and spirit in order to prep you for service to the dark side,” referring to Proverbs 4:23-27. According to them we have “fake faith” (approx. I hour 41-43 mark).

Quayle chillingly said, “When someone says. ‘I am going to destroy you,’ in the real world that is what they make 45s for. That is when your training takes over (153 min).”

Whoa! I have no idea what Quayle is talking about. Is he saying that is what I am doing, trying to destroy them, because I corrected false allegations? Quayle and Hagmann could have simply apologized months ago and sought redemption … Is Quayle suggesting that someone should shoot and kill me and Michael?

What Quayle and Hagmann are doing is dangerous. This is how these “Christian” truth tellers work. They are inciting violence against me and Michael—just like they have against government agencies with false hyped-up allegations. The truth is there are enough legitimate things to be concerned about regarding the Obama administration, there is no need to make anything up.

Their reckless, off-the-charts vicious, character assassination painted an outright false picture of me, my character, and motives.

Let’s keep this simple. What was my crime? I corrected Quayle and Hagmann’s false NSA and SWAT allegations – which is what upright, honest journalists do. Even more wretchedly, I am guilty of the unforgivable sin of apologizing profusely for my terrible error, regarding Hagmann’s fake NSA targeting allegation and for relying on Hagmann’s, Wayne Willott’s (their Intelligence Insider “W’ they had claimed worked for a government intelligence agency) and CFP’s Judi McLeod’s misrepresentations. Being deceived and exploited into reporting a false allegation is a journalist’s worst nightmare. Credibility is everything. Impersonating someone you are not, and the furtherance thereof is a crime.

Was I wrong? No, their words and actions tell the truth. Take their false NSA targeting allegation I corrected. Hagmann’s chilling NSA targeting allegation has been drastically downgraded to almost nothing. Now it is this:

“Following an incident in 2013 when an unusual telephone ring back and caller ID on the office telephone of Doug Hagmann suggested some type of electronic surveillance was being conducted.”

Suggested!!?? “Unusual telephone ring back?” Why so different now? What was all the fuss, fist pounding and fundraising about? Why on earth did Hagmann and co. set me up to report a false allegation? Remember when Hagmann had claimed the NSA opened up an “information file” on him?

“It is not a passive activity by the NSA. There is an active investigation. We know that,” Hagmann had said. “It was and is a wiretap” for the express purpose, “an attempt to find out who my sources are.”

Hagmann getting increasingly heated also had said, “I was told I could get picked up and shut up … Are we going to sit back and take it?” I for one am not going shut up, and take it. I’m sick and tired of having tyrannical despots turn us into a third world country.” The biggest question was what set up off? Was it Benghazi … “

LISTEN: June 2013

There are no words. I’ve been living through a journalist’s worst nightmare thanks to “Christian” truth tellers. Also see: Reality Check #7: Fake NSA targeting allegation is still fake.

And Quayle and Hagmann’s scary SWAT/DHS/caretaker allegation that brought countless people down on their knees in prayer? Quayle and Hagmann didn’t provide a police report to prove Hagmann was swatted because he wasn’t swatted—just like I reported.

Also see: Reality Check #9: Fake SWAT allegation is still fake.

Now do you see why Quayle and Hagmann talk as if I should be burned at the stake? They don’t want their trusting, loyal, Christian audience to look at the documentation and see them for who they really are. Liars. Vicious liars.

Don’t you think I would’ve preferred that Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann were good guys and their allegations were true? Yes. Absolutely. This entire ordeal has been devastating for me. But in journalism, you have to honor the facts despite the costs or else you are a fraud, shyster, liar and a hypocrite.

While Quayle and Hagmann are trying to bully, and intimidate me, in my opinion, into silence by telling their radio audience that they have another “9000 words” they could publish about how horrible me and Michael are. Hagmann did pull back slightly, by stating that this was NOT a threat, but the damage had already been done (approx. 42 min).

If what Quayle and Hagmann have already put out in print, and on the air-waves, is any indication— expect 9000 more words full of lies and libel.

I feel like I am trapped in the politics of personal destruction—“Christian” truth-telling style. The Quayle and Hagmann hate-filled, false personal attacks are overwhelming in pace and volume. It’s like I’m drowning in their injurious lies. I wake up still astonished.

While I need more time to fully document properly all the lies, slander etc., I feel that I must go on the record with some of what I have been working on, so far, this rough working draft …and seek immediate retractions. Forgive any typos or errors … please point them out to me. I am rushing through this. This is by no means a legal brief.

While I’m not a lawyer, I’ve written a court complaint that withstood the test of time. See here. So I know there is still much more I need to address and to do.

That being said, I feel there is an urgency to start setting the record straight because Quayle and Hagmann have been revving things up.

Thank you to the priceless readers, who have been helping me with the radio broadcast transcriptions, while I’ve been going through Quayle/Hagmann’s joint statement.

The fact that I have to report on this again to correct Quayle and Hagmann’s latest onslaught of lies is appalling, insufferable, stressful and time consuming. But I must, in an attempt to stop the potential violence they have incited against me, and undo the swelling damage they have deliberately caused me.

Forgive the length in advance. At the same time, I’m trying to begin the process of exploring my legal options. What they have done is actionable and this is a legal notice. I have been professionally and personally damaged by Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle, in both their lengthy joint statement, three-hour radio appearances— in addition to what I have already documented. More importantly, this is not just about the damage they have caused me, but their innocent, trusting listeners and readers.

Who knew correcting “Christian” truth tellers false allegations would lead to concerns about my safety? I thought Quayle and Hagmann would apologize, correct themselves, and hopefully stop making false, scary accusations.

I never imagined, me, a woman, and a journalist, would have to defend and protect myself from self-described “men of God,” and potentially from some of their followers. But here we are.

“When someone says, ‘I am going to destroy you,’ in the real world that is what they make 45s for. That is when your training takes over.”

Now their masks have come off. You’re seeing what I’ve known for a while.

Reality Check #1: Who Slandered Who?

Let’s cut to the chase. While Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle, self described “watchmen,” use intimidating, lawsuit language in their joint statement like: “slanderous,” “libelous,” ”malicious” etc. wrapped up in Bible scripture, while claiming “that [they] serve solely at the pleasure of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ,” it’s time for a reality check. Let’s see who is slandering and libeling who, and who is guilty of actual malice.

First, if I were guilty of any of their fallacious charges— if Quayle and Hagmann had a leg to stand on in court, and no reason to be concerned with the “discovery” process a legal setting provides, I think it’s reasonable to believe that they would’ve already filed a lawsuit against me or demanded retractions.

My first NSA correction story was reported over four months ago. Instead of a lawsuit, Quayle and Hagmann, after “abundant prayerful consideration,” broke their silence with their dishonest and malicious defaming joint statement and radio appearance, which to me means a lawyer probably, told them they would lose. I’ve backed up all my reporting on this.

When you don’t have a case, your only defense is to scream louder, destroy the messenger in the hope that people will not look at the evidence and hold you accountable. It’s called the politics of personal destruction. That’s the Clinton playbook. It appeals to the court of public opinion, not the court of law. Big difference.

I’m not guilty of libel, malice or slander either. As I reported in an email exchange with Quayle, in my second NSA correction article, I asked him to show me where. Quayle has had plenty of time to cite one example, ask for a correction and apology. He has not done so.

Reality Check #2: What is Slander, Libel, Defamation and Actual Malice?

Since Quayle and Hagmann have crossed the libel, slander and defamation line, let’s briefly define some legal terms.

According to Cornell University Law School:

Slander: Spoken. Slander is “a false statement, usually made orally, which defames another person.” Typically, based on the theory that broadcasting reaches a larger audience than printed publications, damage-wise, words spoken over the air on television or radio are treated more harshly.

Libel: Written. Libel “is a method of defamation expressed by print, writing, pictures, signs, effigies, or any communication embodied in physical form that is injurious to a person’s reputation, exposes a person to public hatred, contempt or ridicule, or injures a person in his/her business or profession.”

Defamation, is a statement that injures a third party’s reputation. The tort of defamation includes both libel (written statements) and slander (spoken statements).

Actual Malice is defined as a “knowing or reckless disregard for the truth.” See: Supreme Court 1964 ruling in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan

Since reporting my first NSA correction article on October 8, 2014, I have not appeared on the radio or any other spoken broadcast platforms to discuss this incident, despite having had opportunities to do so.

Not so for Quayle and Hagmann. They broadcast their dangerous and damaging slander and false accusations, at minimum but not limited to, on The Hagmann & Hagmann Report originally on BlogTalkRadio. BlogTalkRadio, “the largest social radio network in the world,” was founded by Alan Levy and Bob Charish in August 2006. Levy is also the President and CEO of Cinchcast where Charish is Cinchcast’s co-founder and Chief Operating Officer.

Read more about BlogTalkRadio and cinchcast in an interview with Levy at the New York Business Journal.

A purported Christian radio “ministry,” radio “ministry,” The Hagmann and Hagmann Report is also is broadcast on the Christian’s United Broadcasting Network.

It is my understanding that Quayle has been carrying on with their false narrative on other radio shows.

Apparently, The Hagmann & Hagmann Report is also carried on other stations in the US. When the broadcast started, Hagmann was greeting listeners from different parts of the world.

It’s also imperative to point out that Doug and Joe Hagmann don’t represent their radio show as entertainment on BlogTalkRadio, Youtube and elsewhere, but as this:

The Hagmann & Hagmann Report provides viewers and listeners information about current events and historical topics that transcend the political right-left paradigm and delve into the real issues behind the sugar-coated news. This unique, father-son detective duo uses their investigative abilities and resources to aggressively research and report on issues left untouched by the corporate media.”

This also will play a role in the damages they’ve caused me personally, as well as to their innocent audience.

One of the most egregious things a person can do to a journalist is to set them up to report a false allegation. Inciting violence against them, to conceal their deception, is another.

Reality Check #3: Shattering Quayle and Hagmann’s Phony Boogie Man Allegations

Quayle and Hagmann wrote this: “Straining to maintain relevance and angry over being dropped from representing Hagmann in the press….” That’s not true or even possible considering I was never Hagmann’s spokesperson.


This also applies to all the references Quayle and Hagmann made in print and on the radio that I was going to “take down,” “ruin,” and “destroy” them for preposterous and false accusations, including but not limited to, because Hagmann would not promote my Foster book. As Quayle/Hagmann wrote: “[My] premise contained in [my] book proved to be unpopular.”

All and any related statements are false and malicious.

Here’s why. First, I get press on my Foster book, without even trying or going on The Hagmann and Hagmann Report. Read about some of it here and here. To say I need (or anyone else for that matter) to be involved with Hagmann and Quayle to remain “relevant” is not only false, but absurd and arrogant. Moreover who keeps going on the same show to talk about the same book? Nobody.


Also I don’t report to be “popular.” (See: my Quayle and Hagmann NSA and SWAT correction articles.) I go where the evidence takes me whether I like the ending or not. Like my Foster book, to support both party lines, then you must ignore the evidence in the White House. I will not do that. Others do. That’s their business, not mine. If that makes me unpopular with Quayle/Hagmann, oh, well. They’re in good company with the Clintonistas.

That being said—since Quayle and Hagmann didn’t specify, I was wondering, am I just going to “take down,” “ruin” and “destroy” them or all the other media outlets who are critical of my Clinton reporting too? Enquiring minds want to know.


The truth is simple. Here is what Quayle and Hagmann don’t want you to know. Hagmann was not pleased with me when I asked him to stop using my name on the radio. Why? In short, despite having nothing to do with Quayle and Hagmann’s SWAT/DHS/police/caretaker fiasco in the alternative media that THEY made public, to my horror and dismay, I got dragged into it—guilt by association.

If you remember, it caused quite a stir. It didn’t help that Hagmann was using my name on the radio in relation to his fake NSA targeting allegation, and the Freedom of Information Act Requests (FOIA) I was filing, during what I viewed as Hagmann’s SWAT/goon-squad damage-control appearances. So I asked Hagmann to stop using my name. Wouldn’t you? Why was he exploiting me like that? It was wrong and terrible.

As I previously reported in Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report? Scroll down to: “Tru News with Rick Wiles on June 19, 2013, listen here.” There you will also see how Canada Free Press Judi McLeod also made it public that I was filing FOIAs. She’s Quayle and Hagmann’s “reliable” international news editor in their joint defense statement. More on that later.

Truth be told, not just in public, but behind the scenes, the manner in which Quayle and Hagmann were handling that SWAT/goon-squad/DHS etc. debacle was shocking, disturbing and unprofessional. Quayle and Hagmann did not play it straight. The accounts kept changing (you can listen to some of it here). Listeners and readers found it scary and confusing. I saw how it was adversely affecting CFP’s trusting readers and Judi McLeod. It was not right.

While I tried to separate myself nicely from Hagmann, it proved to be difficult. Incredibly, Hagmann claimed that he was trying to boast my public profile, by using my name on the radio, as if he was doing me a favor.

Here’s some evidence for your review. This email exchange between me and Hagmann below, dated June 27-28, 2013. The email is cc’d to Judi McLeod at Canada Free Press.

In part, I wrote this to Hagmann:

“Do me a favor, please don’t mention me on any more shows about the FOIA’s I’m filing. There’s nothing for me to say until I get the info back, and I’m getting caught in this mess (referring to Quayle/Hagmann SWAT/goon squad/police/caretaker incident) that has nothing to do with me where I frankly don’t know what all happened.”

Hagmann did not take kindly to that. He wrote this back to me in part:

“Much more troubling to me, though, is your statement about not wanting to be mentioned by name by me relative to the FOIA process. I had to read it more than once to be certain I fully understood what you said – directly or by implication: … I’ll end this here by stating that I’ve got no problem with whatever you decide to do (re: FOIAs). But rest assured, I will never again mention you by name, on air or in print in any venue. You have my word.”

Hagmann would break his “word,” a couple of weeks later. See: Reality Check #7: Fake NSA targeting allegation is still fake.

Email on Scribd.com click here: To-Doug-Hagmann-Don-t-Use-My-Name

The truth about me is the opposite of what Quayle and Hagmann have written and been saying about me. I didn’t want a connection to either of them. I’m just a journalist. As a responsible and ethical journalist, I needed to report whatever the FOIAs showed regarding Hagmann’s NSA allegation. I hoped it was true. That was it.

The worst part is that both Hagmann and Quayle know this. They’ve shown a
“knowing or reckless disregard for the truth.” We have the same emails.

Hagmann, in particular, has been exploiting me and my work under false pretenses since the summer of 2013. It must stop. Need proof?

It is all here: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?

Go see: Hagmann’s one-year NSA targeting allegation anniversary broadcast video where he uses my NSA FOIA# as fake proof that he was targeted by the NSA.

FYI: Quayle/Hagmann’s joint statement now calls that an “innocuous error.” The problem with that is, as they would say, now Hagmann has NOTHING to “hang his hat on.”


Note: There is much more I need to document on this regarding Judi McLeod. You will see some more of it in: Reality Check #10: Quayle and Hagmann’s “Reliable” International News Editor.

Again, I’m a journalist. I’m not a part of anyone’s “circle of trust,” nor would I cover up for Judi McLeod’s long-time senior columnist Doug Hagmann.

Now do you see who has the motive to “take down,” “destroy” and “ruin” a person? Who even speaks like that?

Retract all.

Reality Check #4: MIA “Christian” truth teller witnesses

While Quayle/Hagmann chastised me while citing a Bible scripture from Matthew, and how I should’ve handled this privately, all the principals need to do, is to look in the mirror. Practice what they preach.

Hagmann had over a year to handle this privately. Four months have now passed, since I reported my initial NSA correction article, with nary a peep from anyone inside what they call “their circle of trust.” Aside from the character assassinations attempts I’ve reported in my second NSA correction article.

I am seeking clarification here. What was said on the Quayle/Hagmann radio broadcast precisely? Did Quayle say their church “elder,” a Pastor David Lankford, of the Voice of Evangelism, consulted with me or Michael or just them? Was Quayle speaking on behalf of Pastor Lankford? If Pastor Lankford is Quayle and Hagmann’s church “elder,” all I can tell you is he has not directed any “witnesses” my way or reached out to me privately. I’m easy to get a hold of via my website. Go to “About,” click, “Contact me,” send me an email with some good times to call, and I’ll call. I’m in ET.

Please clarify. I can’t imagine a Pastor advising anyone to dig in, keep lying, and launch a false, malicious character assassination on anybody with veiled threats. I don’t know Pastor Lankford. I only know that he has appeared on The Hagmann and Hagmann with Quayle numerous times, and according to his website, he’s also the host of “The Voice of Evangelism,” an international radio program.

Moreover, unlike Quayle and Hagmann, I had two witnesses at two different junctures. Where are their “Christian” truth telling witnesses? Quayle and Hagmann need to take what was read on the radio broadcast (at 148), written by Tom Horn, to heart, and stop being hypocrites regarding scripture from Matthew. I don’t know Tom Horn either, but I do know he also appears on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report with Quayle and is involved with SkyWatchTV.

Who is being un-Christian like here? One of my witnesses was Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider, “W,” Wayne Willott. I’ve lost count about how many times we discussed and argued about all of this. Go ahead and ask him. I did.

Who is being unchristian like? And who is out of step with Christ’s teachings in the book of Matthew in this situation? I recently addressed this question to ‘W, the Intelligence Insider who up until October 2, 2014 was a frequent guest on the Hagmann show. His e-mailed response was enlightening. He also shed some light on the FOIAs based on his recollection.


“Marinka….You asked me if I knew the specific scripture in Matthew that Doug and Steve were referring to in their statements responding to your recent articles. I have not read the articles and I have not read/listened to their responses so I’m just going on your information to me at this point. I’ll try to review those written/broadcasted excerpts you forwarded to me in the very near future; unfortunately, I’m very pre-occupied at this exact moment. However, if I understood you correctly, the assertion is that you failed to deal with your complaint with Doug privately first, in order to resolve your differences. Additionally you also asked me if I would like to respond to their complaints about your handling of the matters at point in your articles and their responses. I’ll answer your second question first…”NO!…I would not ‘LIKE’ to respond, but in the interest of trying to keep all involved on the straight and narrow, I WILL respond, ‘LIKE’ it or not.

The scripture I believe your asking me about is Matthew 18:15…it reads, “Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.”

Now if the purpose of citing this scripture is to say that you did not try to resolve this problem privately with Doug and therefore you have acted in an unscriptural/unchristian manner, I would have to say that the the inverse is the truth and you did act in a biblical way at all points IF this is the scripture on which your actions are going to be judged and based on my direct knowledge/understanding of the relevant events from the outset.

As I recall the progression of events, you were asked and/or offered to help draft some FOIA’s to be directed to the NSA based on your experience and long history of demonstrable successes in doing so on other stories. When I learned that you had agreed to do so, I suggested that the FOIA’s be filed in several locations, not just with the NSA; so as to have the greatest likelihood of getting to the bottom of what had taken place. It seems to me that somewhere in that series of conversations I also suggested that it would probably be more effective (from a reporting standpoint) for YOU to file the FOIA’s and report on them rather than Doug file them and report on them, as it could come across as self serving for him to do so directly. In other words, as you have done on occasion throughout your career, someone was in trouble/under attack, and so, in the spirit of the Samaritan…you agreed to enter the fray, try to assist in order to make a positive difference.

Nothing unchristian like or unscriptural to this point in time to the best of my knowledge; so your in the clear, to here.

I know from personal experience how time consuming and tedious it had to have been for you to prepare such document requests; especially when you already had a full plate at the time, seeking FOIA responses and related documentation relative to the Benghazi incident. That is why I was a bit perplexed when you called me and asked me if I knew why Doug was not returning your repeated calls or responding to your e-mail(s) requesting he send you the agreed upon signed release which would allow you to proceed with the filing of the FOIA’s, as you had been requested to do. (Since the information in the FOIA requests was personal and private it could only be requested directly by Doug Hagmann or, with the permission of Doug Hagmann accompanied by a signed, legal release {MP}.) My recollection is that although I had not spoken much…if at all…with Doug for a couple of days at that exact time, (to the best of my recollection), it was due to him being tied up dealing with some extended family matters of a personal nature. I stated to you at the time that I thought this was most likely the reason for the tardiness in getting back to you. Since at that specific time I generally talked to Doug a couple of times a week, I promised I would raise the matter with Doug ASAP and get this done. I felt as you did at the time, that it was important to get the ball rolling quickly; but there was also concern on my part, that it was a matter of respect for your timely and time consuming efforts to date in identifying the appropriate agencies and offices to file at, and then preparing the appropriate FOIA’s with precision (as I previously noted….no small task).

It is at this point that I think a quote from Christ’s discourse as chronicled in the book of Matthew starting at chapter 18 verse 15, would be incomplete without including the passages from 8:16 and 17 which read in part….”But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.” As I read this scripture and apply it to this situation (as I then and now understand it), I cannot identify any aspect of your behavior that deviates from the correct, Christ-like, scripturally ordained directives provided by Christ here in Matthew. When you contacted me privately and explained the situation, with your concerns and agitation….and then asked me to assist/accompany you in addressing Doug and resolving the matter you were precisely in line with scripture and a scriptural response.

I might add also however, that not all of the persons watching or effected by these events and publications are ‘Christians’. As I recall, you had already written and published an article about the event as described by Doug and told your readers that you would keep them posted as the situation developed; this is why the applicable standard from a journalistic standpoint for you as a journalist/reporter operating in the broader public forum was and is different than the standard which is being referenced in the quotes from Matthew. In other words you were at no time ‘technically’ bound by any ‘scripturally ordained’ procedural directive!…strictly speaking those directives are aimed at persons operating in a ‘church-home/church body’ type environment. That being said, using a professional standard as opposed to a biblical standard, your actions are and were totally in line and defensible in every way as I see it. Your actions and diligent pursuit of an appropriate and timely response were totally correct when after several weeks you still were waiting (albeit less patiently) for and had failed to get any response inspite of your noteworthy efforts.

As I recall it was no more that a day or two later, and may in fact have been the same day (I don’t recall precisely), I did in fact talk to Doug about the FOIA releases and the importance of getting them back to you asap. He agreed and asked me to express his apologizes for not doing so to date and again cited personal matters were straining his time. I believe I informed you nearly simultaneously and noted between both of you that it should be pretty straight forward and easy to accomplish this and proceed. I don’t recall any push-back or second thoughts about proceeding or him deciding to do it directly with out your assistance at that time (or any time). In fact, I believe it was you who brought to my attention, in close proximity to this time frame, that Doug had done one or more radio interviews on other shows (it may have been a listener who brought it to your attention first), where he talked about the ‘fact’ that you were filing FOIA’s to identify the parties/agencies who may have been targeting him, so as to determine on what basis and/or for what reason….legal or otherwise….they were doing so. As I recall, you contacted me and emailed and left phone messages for Doug at about this time complaining that he had apparently had time to do long radio interviews but not a few minutes to sign and return the necessary releases for you to in fact begin the discovery processes. I expressed to you and Doug at the time that you were absolutely correct to request that he not say any such thing until he had returned the signed releases and you had actually filed them, because it was not accurate to say you had filed anything to that point in time. At your request (a rather animated one as my tenderized ears recall) I did again raise the issue directly with both Joe and Doug (I believe Joe was also on that specific interview(s) and initially Doug was not available so I spoke to Joe first and then later Doug, within (at the most) as day or so. You also left messages and e-mails with Doug, and asked me to convey to him that he should not reference you by name in any of his writing from this point on and just link to your website and stories if needed. In my conversations with all of you I did say something to the effect that “there was probably ‘no harm, no foul’ as long as the signed releases were gotten to you right away and you did in fact get the filing process started”. In retrospect, you were absolutely correct in your attention to ‘details’ that could later be twisted; and in fact, one of the reasons I have always admired your work is because you are a stickler for ‘details’. This is an important point that is not lost on me in this current situation. Your instincts and professional responses were on point and totally defensible from the position of a professional journalist (as if one should actually have to defend themselves for being a stickler for accuracy when operating in a journalistic capacity).

Simultaneously, when the signed releases were not forthcoming, you talked to another close associate of both you and Doug and requested that they also do what they could to get Doug to complete and return the signed releases to you. I also spoke to that person on another matter, at that same approximate time on another matter, but simultaneously the issue of the unreturned releases was raised and I told them as I had told you, that I would re-address the issue with Doug and ask him to get this done. At approximately this point I was pretty surprised to hear from you that Doug had e-mailed you what amounted to a cease and desist letter and included in it a threat of Legal action if you did not.

Matthew 18:17 “And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a corrupt tax collector.” While this scripture is directly applicable in a church setting, the ‘court’ of public opinion is a (only slightly) different matter. When, after a considerable period of time, the matter remained unresolved, you were unassailably correct to publish a retraction/correction based on the information at hand. The problem now becomes quite acute for the assembled circle of ‘witnesses’ who must choose ‘too hear’, ‘what to hear’ and how to respond. I recall that Christ often said “He who has ears, let him hear” As I see it, your hands are clean and you have conducted yourself in a perfectly appropriate and professional manner at all points and I have the ear aches on both sides to prove it. When Christ himself performed healing miracles there were some nay sayers in the crowd on one occasion who proclaimed that he cast out devils because he was a devil and therefore lesser devils were responding to his authority as a chief among devils. It seems to me that any complaints by ‘witnesses’ about your work in this matter is based on a similar flawed logic.

My current concern is that the now assembled ‘witnesses’ would actually consider your work directly. I doubt there has ever been an assemblage in a church setting where this scripture was being applied that went smoothly. It is by nature disruptive and unpleasant; just as a courtroom is an adversarial and glaringly harsh. However, the scriptures are clear and the codes of professional conduct are well known; and there is a reason why these type of matters are brought before the ‘Body’ of the ‘Church’ or ‘Court of Public Opinion’ at some point….and now the Jury must Judge. God help them one and all in their deliberations. W”

My second witness went to Hagmann after I read them Hagmann’s threat of legal action (that Hagmann and Quayle are now falsely stating does not exist. See: Reality Check #11: Hagmann’s Threat of Legal Action Exists). They were aware of the divide between us and wanted to know what happened. It’s come to my attention since then that this person is now being sponsored by Steve Quayle for their radio “ministry.” There are no words.

Here’s a clip of one of Pastor Lankford’s appearances on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report with Steve Quayle called “What makes God vomit.” I know Quayle and some of the others, in what, I guess, they call their “circle of trust,” have taken a strong stand against other preachers. They call them “pukes in the pulpit,” referring to people like Joel Olsteen and Rick Warren. They say these preachers are compromised and beholden to the government for tax breaks, at the expense of God’s word, because they are 501 c3s, non-profits.

I’m not a Bible expert with a ministry; and I’m certainly no expert when it comes to the nuances of US tax law. I’m just a journalist. What I do know are the basic principles of right and wrong. Good and bad. This is about decency, honesty, and integrity. It’s that simple.

When I make a mistake I correct myself and apologize, as evidenced in my NSA correction articles. When people do not correct themselves, I remove myself from them because chances are you’ll have problems with them in the future. See below.

Reality Check #5: Big Lies, Little Lies

Notice Quayle/Hagmann’s brazen duplicity in their joint statement. It starts after their Bible/watchman talk. They claim:

“It is [their] charge to provide accurate and scripturally sound information and doctrine to those who seek it,” and say my “accusations are one sided, contextually biased, and selectively fabricated (emphasis mine).”

Yet Quayle/Hagmann are doing what they’ve falsely accused me of doing. They didn’t provide their listeners or readers with links to my NSA and SWAT corrections articles, so their audience could look at the evidence, and draw their own conclusions. While I am not a bible expert or a ministry, I think it fair to say that what Quayle and Hagmann have done is not accurate, scripturally sound or ethical.

Honest people give their audience both sides. The fact that these “watchmen” did not speaks volumes. If they have any integrity, they will correct that glaring error immediately.

To give you a prologue, an idea of the scope of fabrications, I’ve been dealing with, typically Quayle/Hagmann write sentences with more than one lie in them. Sometimes a sentence is infused with libel + lies, other times, no libel just lies. It’s time consuming trying to keep up and address them all.

For instance, Quayle and Hagmann wrote this:

“As many readers and listeners know, we’ve been subjected to a well-coordinated and malicious campaign of slander and libel over the last several months by two individuals who we once trusted, generously provided airtime, financial support, and for whom we solicited the support of others. Both were introduced to us telephonically by third parties.”

Quayle/Hagmann falsely claimed they “provided financial support” to me. That’s not true. I’ve never received a dime from either one of them. This is why there is no proof of that in their joint statement. They need to retract that false statement immediately, and all the others I’ve already cited and am citing, as I go through this horrendous process, to prevent additional harm to me personally and professionally.


In addition, I’ve never spoken to Quayle. I’ve never been introduced to him by a “third party.” During our email exchange I reported about in: Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake, at one point, I thought Quayle would get back to me, but he never did. How could I be a trusted anything with him/them? I can’t because it’s not true. It’s impossible. On the radio broadcast they called it their “circle of trust” or “inner circle. Again, that’s false. I’ve never been a part of their “circle of trust,” or anyone else’s for that matter. Frankly, that sounds kind of creepy and cult-like to me. It’s also a career killer for any journalist and would compromise their reporting.


While Hagmann did offer that I could come on his radio show anytime. I didn’t take him up on his kind offer. The archives will confirm that. If memory serves me correctly I appeared back in 2011-2012—3 times. I discussed both of my Clinton books and the military ROEs etc. like I have done on other radio shows. I also never appeared on The Hagmann & Hagmann Report, for the entire broadcast either, despite Hagmann’s nice offer to do so.


Moreover, if I spoke on the phone with Doug Hagmann more than about a half a dozen times since I was first introduced to him, back in 2009, by Judi McLeod of Canada Free Press, I’d be surprised. We were introduced not “by phone,” but by email first. But hey, it’s the “Christian” truth tellers, and why say anything truthful when it’s easier and more effective to broad stroke lies to paint a false narrative?


Note: Further down in the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement, they made more false allegations (which I am also in the process of specifically addressing), regarding phone conversations Hagmann falsely claimed we had. You will notice Hagmann cuts off a date—on purpose. Thanks to the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement, Hagmann will need to release all of his phone records in a court of law.

Reality Check #6: Well-coordinated campaign?

Now let’s break down this lie, in that initial sentence I cited. Yes, we are still on that one sentence. I must do this for legal purposes, and so I don’t have to go back and re-document again. Do you see what I mean about what I’ve been dealing with? Big lies, little lies…

Quayle and Hagmann claim,

“We’ve been subjected to a well-coordinated and malicious campaign of slander and libel over the last several months.”

Again, notice how Quayle/Hagmann did not cite one example of slander or libel I am supposedly guilty of.

Second, my first NSA correction article, Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report? was published on October 8, 2014. The second article: Steve Quayle exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation is fake, on November 19, 2014. Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake was published on February 9, 2015.

Michael, at Revelationnow.net did not pick up my first NSA correction article (October 8, 2014). Had we been engaged in a well-coordinated and malicious campaign of slander and libel over the last several months,” why then didn’t Michael pick up my first NSA correction article? I will tell you why. Because we did not know each other.

Furthermore, when Michael picked up my second NSA correction article, published on November 19, which I wrote because Steve Quayle provided me with more evidence that it was fake, Michael posted this: Hagmann and Quayle Caught in a Lie? on November 30, without my knowledge—because we still did not know each other.

Other media outlets and websites do this every day – posting excerpts of other people’s work without the principles knowing each other. Is everyone who picks up Hagmann and Quayle’s stories involved in a well-coordinated campaign of slander against them too, or is it just me and Michael?

When I saw that Michael picked up my 2nd NSA correction, on November 30, 2014, I contacted him shortly thereafter to thank him. He was also under fire in his comment section for a story that I wrote, and was rightfully telling people to “take it up” with me. That’s when I first starting responding to comments to direct people to my website, to look at the documentation, and to stop them for attacking Michael. He was the messenger here. That’s it.

As Michael wrote:

“Marinka and I operate in two different “ponds”where I am extremely fascinated and interested in the Word and esoteric while she is more of a political animal; and more importantly an authentic investigative journalist. Our connection now is we both have evidence these men are liars masquerading as servants of the Most High.”

And for Michael’s crime of posting two of my articles, the “Christian” truth tellers have maliciously attacked him, and brought unspeakable pain to his family, and his wife who is battling cancer. Words cannot express how sorry I am about that. I never imagined any of this would happen. I’m just a journalist who corrected false allegations.

So despite being cloaked as men of God as Quayle/Hagmann and co. will tell you, it was impossible for me and Michael to have been be engaged in a “well-coordinated” campaign about anything for “several months,” considering we had recent contact over two posts.


Do you see what I mean? All that in one sentence that needed to be addressed. Big lies, little lies. Lies everywhere, on top of other lies, inside and out, every which way you can look.

Quayle/Hagmann also wrote this:

“Despite being a self-proclaimed journalist who claims to always speak and write the truth, it is evident that Peschamnn was either a willing participant in propagating the false name of Michael Erevna on her website, or failed to conduct the necessary due diligence pertaining to his fictitious identity, even after having reason to do so. One should thoughtfully consider this fact as well, as her intentional propagation of this fictitious identity, would again make her either inconceivably incompetent or deliberately untruthful, or perhaps both.”

The deliberate libel, hypocrisy and falsehoods are staggering here. More so even, considering, as Michael documented, Quayle/Hagmann knew his legal name all along. They intentionally went on the record despite that with outright lies. I was not “a willing participant in propagating” anything. And what do they mean “even after reason to do so?” They never did say. Michael uses his middle name. I still call him Michael today. His wife chose his last name for his website. It means researcher in Greek.


Moreover, their hypocrisy and defaming statements about me were treacherous and deliberate. They attacked me for things they do. As I noted in Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake Hagmann has built up his radio show and CFP platform, by using a mix of no-named—initials, or fake named people including Hagmann’s DHS Insider, Intelligence Insider, “W,” Financial Insider, “V,”also known as the V, The Guerrilla Economist, Yoda, and even a Dr. S.

Talk to medical professionals about how unethical it was to put a nameless doctor on the air. The Hagmann & Hagmann Report did that with an appearance with Quayle and a Dr. S. There is nothing ethical about presenting a doctor to discuss Ebola or any disease without presenting his credentials so the audiences can verify if he is qualified to practice medicine.

Retract all.

It’s worth pointing out while Quayle/Hagmann dutifully and diligently try to paint me as being obsessive in their joint statement. Did you notice when I reported Hagmann’s false NSA allegation twice that was good, but when I reported two corrective NSA articles, that’s bad and obsessive. Just saying…


Quayle/Hagmann wrote this:

“Meanwhile, Ms. Peschmann continues her campaign of lies against us as well, obvious investing an incredible amount of time writing prolifically and actively encouraging others to join her to “expose” us in our Christian endeavors. “

“Campaign of lies?” and “strangely obsessive needs of a so-called professional (from another statement, there’s more).” Hagmann and Quayle are misrepresenting the amount of time I’ve I invested in this. The truth is I “invest” a lot of time in all the stories I report.

Below are the articles I’ve reported that don’t involve any of Hagmann and Quayle’s false allegations, I wrote while Quayle/Hagmann also falsely accused me of being a part of “a well-coordinated and malicious campaign of slander and libel over the last several months,” and of stalking, harassing, and threatening them (radio broadcast) etc..

Look at the length and documentation. That’s my style. If I were so obsessed with them, why then did I work on other stories, and not dedicate every waking breath to exposing them?

Review my articles I reported during the Quayle-Hagmann fake allegations timeline—a four month timeline. You can read them all on my website.

October 30, 2014: Memo to Chairman Gowdy’s Select Committee: Two military aircraft in full mission capable status on September 11, 2012. Never activated—Benghazi FOIA Exclusive

November 5, 2014: Defense Chief Hagel: Free Sgt. Derrick Miller

January 6, 2015: Select Committee asks why were we in Benghazi? Docs confirm MANPADS and gunrunning into Syria

January 20, 2015: Egyptians on US Policy: Obama, Clinton and Patterson supported terrorism in Egypt. Memo to Benghazi Select Committee

January 26, 2015: Edward Snowden’s GCHQ journalists’ intercept threat revelation: How I became a risk to UK security after filing Benghazi FOIAs

Retract all.

While libeling me again, Quayle/Hagmann also misrepresented what I wrote in the second part of that one sentence.

Quayle/Hagmann wrote this: “… and actively encouraging others to join her to “expose” us in our Christian endeavors. “

I wrote about this in Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake:

“Among the damage suffered from listening to and believing these “Christian” alternative media stars includes: nervous breakdowns, suicidal thoughts, anxiety issues, divorces, and relocations that broke up families. Some of their followers are now cash-poor, gold/silver/prepper supplies heavy, and living in financial ruin.”

In that story I was referring to exposing fake or misguided “Christians,” who hurt trusting, and loyal Christians. Christians don’t make scary false allegations, hold curiously timed fundraisers, and dig in when they are exposed, instead of correcting themselves and apologizing. Good Christians also don’t ignore the poison fruits from harmful “Christian” endeavors. Clear now?


Let’s give credit where credit is due. Based on some reactions from their dear, trusting, Christian listeners including this lady, Quayle and Hagmann are gifted liars and very persuasive. That dear lady, in her 70’s bought, hook-line-and-sinker, Quayle and Hagmann’s false, wicked boogie man narrative about me and Michael. It takes my breath away.

Reality Check #7: Fake NSA Allegation is Still Fake

In their joint statement Quayle/Hagmann wrote this:

“Following an incident in 2013 when an unusual telephone ring back and caller ID on the office telephone of Doug Hagmann suggested some type of electronic surveillance was being conducted.”

Suggested some type of…!??

As I previously noted, doesn’t it strike you as odd that Quayle/Hagmann never refer to what used to be Hagmann’s very public NSA targeting allegation? It has been downgraded significantly into “some of type of electronic surveillance.”

Why so different now? Remember when Doug Hagmann wrote this: A message from National Security Agency File Number 70900? It was published by Judi McLeod’s Canada Free Press on July 10, 2013.

Please READ Hagmann’s entire article to see the level of misrepresentation and deception in that sentence.

Some excerpted highlights:

“In the files of the NSA, however, I am File Number 70900 [It is actually in the files of the NSA FOIA office, the truth matters]. And as an American citizen, I apparently pose a national security threat due to questions no one wants to answer, and to corruption few wish to expose…. It was just two days ago that a fellow journalist told me that he would no longer talk to me, as I have now become “toxic” by my presence on the radar of the federal government. The very fact that the NSA is not only collecting information, but content, is having a chilling effect on those of us seeking to expose corruption and provide the truth to the American public… We must not allow this process that is contrary to our Constitution to continue… I will continue my quest for the truth and to expose the corruption and depraved indifference of those in power. I merely ask that you do the same. And pray.”

Why so different now? Listen to Doug Hagmann on CFP’s biggest story: His NSA allegation and going to congress. “We’re seeing history being made here…”

There are more examples of Hagmann’s previous public accounts that don’t reflect what is in the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement, in my correction articles.

Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report? and Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake for all sourcing please.

Note: I’m sick and tired of this. Liars, lie. The most egregious thing anyone can do to a journalist is to set them up to report a false allegation. There are no words.

Retract all.

Furthermore, as I also reported, and you can see with YOUR OWN EYES in Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake, this is what Quayle falsely claimed when he was targeted by the NSA with Hagmann:


Quayle’s version of being targeted by the NSA does not remotely resemble Hagmann’s version. Neither did it appear in the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement.

Again, retract all.

Reality Check #8: Still no actionable notarized “voluntary statement” of NSA targeting allegation

They cannot stop lying and defaming me. Quayle and Hagmann wrote this:

“[Peschmann’s] allegations of non-receipt are patently false as the sworn documents were submitted and remain on file. This should be without question, as her self-stated journalistic prowess would never allow her to file FOIA requests without first having a fully sworn affidavit of facts in hand. One should thoughtfully consider this fact alone, as her actions, when viewed through her own statements, would make her either inconceivably incompetent or deliberately untruthful, or perhaps both.”

No. What Quayle and Hagmann wrote is “patently false.” Here’s why.

There are two parts of lies plus some libel in that statement. And of course Quayle/Hagmann did not cite any of my “statements” because that would further expose them as liars. There are TWO different documents that should be notarized—according to Hagmann’s own media appearances (see below). I’ve only seen one.

Despite what Quayle/Hagmann tell you, I needed ONE notarized document from Hagmann to file a FOIA, and that was Hagmann’s consent for me to file the FOIAs–not a “fully sworn affidavit of facts.” It was notarized by a notary public on June 24, 2013. Yes, I received that one, I have never claimed otherwise. As I reported, and you can view it here: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report? Please scroll down to:

“No one can file a FOIA on another person for privacy reasons without their written consent. Short version. That was no easy task to get.”


Quayle/Hagmann are lying to you when they wrote that I could not file a FOIA, “without first having a fully sworn affidavit of facts in hand.” That’s not true. Quayle/Hagmann were cunning in their deception. A lot of people have never filed FOIAs so they would not know the difference, and what is actually involved in a third party FOIA filing. As they say, the devil is in the details.

Hagmann’s voluntary statement/affidavit didn’t play a role in my ability to file FOIAs despite Quayle/Hagmann’s false contention and libelous statements. Don’t take my word for it. Google: “file FOIA, third party,” and variations thereof, to get additional confirmation from government agencies.

This second document, the “voluntary statement,” also referred to as Hagmann’s affidavit— is where he memorialized his NSA targeting allegation to supposedly find his insider intelligence and DHS sources, and should be sworn, according to Hagmann, under the penalty of perjury before a notary and a municipal court judge.

Scroll down here to LISTEN to Doug Hagmann, in his OWN words, over a year later, on his November 12, 2014 broadcast talking about this (forgive me, I’m running out of memory on this page) or go to my second NSA correction article and scroll down to:

“Now listen to Doug Hagmann on his November 12, 2014 radio show–since I corrected his false NSA allegation.”

That’s the document Judi McLeod at Canada Free Press emailed me on June 3, 2013, as I reported in Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake. You can view it there and compare it with the consent to file FOIAs document that WAS notarized.

Scroll down to:

“The names that I blocked out in black marker are other journalists who are not involved.” As you can see it is not notarized.

Compare it with: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report? with the notarized FOIA permission document I received. Scroll down to:

“No one can file a FOIA on another person for privacy reasons without their written consent. Short version. That was no easy task to get. You have noticed, right?”

You see? Two different documents. One is sworn/notarized, the other “voluntary statement” is not.

That voluntary statement/affidavit was the basis of this exclusive CFP report. As you can see it is not sworn or notarized by a judge or otherwise.

Quayle/Hagmann also did not produce it in their joint statement either. Just so we are 1000% clear. Again, Hagmann still has not produced a sworn version –now apparently taken before a notary and a municipal court judge (see video below).

The reason why it is important to know if it exists is because if not, it’s more proof that Hagmann is a liar. If his “voluntary statement/affidavit” was sworn before a notary or a county judge, that’s actionable under the penalty of perjury.

Quayle/Hagmann’s allegation of non-receipt is false.


Now, let’s take a look at some my “statements” Quayle/Hagmann omitted when they libeled me in their joint statement in another sentence.

In part see: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?

“How about some updates with the congressman and senators Hagmann also claimed he was going to contact during other radio appearances? He had said he was going to give them his sworn affidavit and not back down. Does that sworn affidavit even exist or did McLeod email me a copy of one from Hagmann that was never notarized? “

You can read his affidavit here.

In Hagmann’s redacted affidavit email McLeod sent me, he claimed:
1. I am contacting my Congressman and Senator about this.
2. An unredacted notarized copy is on file and will be sent to said Congressman and Senator
3. I have an inquiry pending with my telephone provider for any information they have.

Yet in over a year there has been no updates on the others things Hagmann claimed he was doing either.”

Moreover, I reiterated similar information that Quayle/Hagmann have libeled me over in: Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake

“Doug Hagmann needs to produce the original voluntary statement/affidavit – sworn under the penalty of perjury. He claims he took an oath before a notary and/or a municipal court judge publicly regarding this. As I originally reported, I never saw a sworn affidavit only the email versions. Over thirty days have passed since then.”

By omitting the facts and not producing any evidence they claimed they would, provides additional proof that the NSA allegation is still false. Over four months later, Hagmann has still not produced it, and the Quayle/Hagmann joint defense instead libeled me to cover up their deception.


So we are 1000% clear. There are two entirely different documents that were supposedly sworn under the penalty of perjury. One you need to file a FOIA on a third party, the other one you do not need to file a FOIA. By blending them together Quayle/Hagmann are deceiving you.

So we are 1001% clear, and to provide additional documentation that I only needed Hagmann’s consent to file a FOIA notarized, also see “FBI FOIA” further down from here.


What is the likely hood that Quayle/Hagmann were ever going to tell you the truth about Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation? I think zero chance.

Here’s why. Hagmann continued to mislead and deceive his trusting audience about it, as recently as November 2014. He probably would still be doing it if I didn’t set the record straight.

Review: LISTEN to Doug Hagmann, in his OWN words, on his November 12, 2014 radio show–since I corrected his false NSA allegation (October 8, 2014) talk about his NSA targeting allegation.

He’s talking about the document that he’s never produced a sworn, notarized original of despite claiming differently, falsely in the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement.

In case you forgot what Quayle/Hagmann wrote in their joint statement, here it is (I know it’s hard to keep track):

“Following an incident in 2013 when an unusual telephone ring back and caller ID on the office telephone of Doug Hagmann suggested some type of electronic surveillance was being conducted.”

Suggested some type of…!!??

Okay. Here it is. It wasn’t that long ago when Hagmann said in part:

Last year, I was the subject of an NSA type of event, harassment. I actually swore out an affidavit, before a notary, and in fact before a municipal court judge, outlining exactly what happened to me in my office on a certain date, 2013, when the NSA had shown up on my telephone… In other words, subsequent to a conversation with an investigative reporter [Steve Quayle], and I’m not going to name that investigative reporter. The NSA, Utah data center showed up on my caller id. I had a ring-back.”

Even more duplicitous, in my view, Hagmann is talking about his NSA targeting allegation in the context of former CBS’s correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. Attkisson was targeted, and is suing the administration over computer hacking, in part because of information she obtained via a FBI FOIA.

Additionally, I’m pretty confident that the person he was slandering in this clips regarding rumors on the Internet is me. Moreover, as I documented in my second NSA correction article, Steve Quayle essentially was calling me a fool and idiot for even thinking I could get something back from FOIA. Who is the fool now?

Listen to it all.

Also, for added good measure, to illustrate to you how shamelessly Quayle/Hagmann lie from: Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake

Here are more statements of mine that Quayle/Hagmann omitted. Scroll down to:

“In well over a year, to my knowledge, there has been no word or updates from Hagmann or McLeod on any of this:
-The Congressmen and representatives Hagmann was supposedly contacting.
-The telephone company investigation Hagmann was supposedly doing.
-The FISA courts
-Hagmann and Quayle did not file FOIAs. Had they, they would have had updates for his listeners and readers a long time ago.
-Hagmann has not produced the affidavit that was allegedly sworn under oath before a notary and a municipal judge. Sworn affidavits are actionable.”

Nothing has changed since Quayle/Hagmann published their joint statement.


This ties in with Hagmann’s threat of legal action again me, Quayle/Hagmann are now falsely claiming does not exist. Hagmann wrote this in his email to me when he rescinded his permission to file FOIAs:

“I believe that you have mistakenly perceived my purposely slow and deliberate approach to this matter as an indication of either subterfuge, incompetence or interest, all of which is absurd.”

No, it was not absurd. That statement proves I was correct. Over a year and a half later, Hagmann has proven that he had no intention of doing anything to investigate his NSA targeting allegation because it was fake.

Yet, Hagmann deliberately continued to mislead his trusting audiences by continuing to speak about it publicly as it were true, and now Quayle/Hagmann are trying to destroy me.

This is and always has been the issue. The “Christian” truth tellers set me up to report a frightening, fake allegation involving a government agency to find his sources who worked at government agencies.

Retract, rectify the damage, and apologize not just to me, but to your audiences.

For so long, I didn’t want to believe that I’d been exploited and used to report a false allegation, but here we are.

Therefore, I can stand by my reporting in these stories that were first published in Judi McLeod’s Canada Free Press: How Extensive is the NSA Domestic Surveillance of U.S. Media? Is it legal? and Exclusive: Obama’s NSA Operates on Two Sets of Books. Who is Watching the Watchers? except for the parts about Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation.

My apologies to everyone who was deceived and adversely affected by Hagmann’s false NSA allegation.

Reality Check #9: Fake SWAT Allegation is Still Fake

The lies and defamation continue to pile up …

Quayle/Hagmann wrote this:

“Unknown to Peschmann, however, is that the person she spoke with at the police department contacted Doug Hagmann within 5 minutes of Peschmann calling, to make him aware of the predisposition sensed during her inquiry.”

One again, Quayle/Hagmann have distorted what I reported and generated more false statements when they condescendingly wrote, “Unknown to Peschmann,” I knew the Millcreek Police Sergeant called Hagmann. I reported it.

Review: Excerpted from: Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake

“Then finally, thank God, a bright light of hope, and it was beautiful. The Millcreek Police Sergeant knew what to do. He called Doug Hagmann directly and asked him what had happened. After all, this SWAT/police incident supposedly occurred in his “town.”

The Sergeant was wonderful. A no-nonsense, real pro. Thankfully, I did not have to wait long. Shortly thereafter, he called me back. It was unbelievable. Hagmann told the Sergeant a different version than what he and Steve Quayle had told their Christian, trusting, loyal audience.

What? Apparently the SWAT/police incident happened somewhere else.

Then … What? He said what? But – I don’t know. Me either. Whoa! But Hagmann publicly said… I don’t know – that’s what – Ugh. This changes everything…”


Quayle/Hagmann also wrote this:

“Perhaps Peschmann forgot that Doug Hagmann has been an investigator in the private sector for 30 years and knows the clerks and brass of the local police force well.”

Is it me, or do Quayle/Hagmann have a bad habit of sounding pompous, and taking cheap shots? No, I didn’t forget Hagmann’s alleged private investigator background. This is why it was even more shocking to learn that his “local” police force in Millcreek, where Hagmann/ Quayle claimed the SWAT/DHS/police/caretaker incident occurred, does not have a police report of it. Moreover, the clerk and Sergeant I spoke to at Millcreek showed no signs of familiarity when I told them Doug Hagmann’s name which is why, as I reported:

Review: Excerpted from: Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake

“The Millcreek Police Department clerk could not have been more helpful, professional and thorough. Even she seemed surprised when nothing came up, considering the level of detail I provided based on these “Christian” truth tellers’ account in the alternative media. She double checked, re-checked all the possible variations of Doug Hagmann’s name—with or without his middle initial, Doug versus Douglas, Hagmann with one “n” versus two n’s etc.

Indeed, Hagmann and Quayle’s traumatic SWAT/police/DHS incident was nowhere to be found.

Surely there must be a mistake. Hagmann had said there were two horrific, scary incidents that day. What about Hagmann’s DHS Insider and the DHS? Days before their SWAT allegation, Hagmann claimed that his DHS Insider source had been threatened.

Retract all.

Quayle/Hagmann wrote this:

“Lastly, although perhaps most importantly, Peschmann crossed into serious territory when she published her accusations that Douglas Hagmann lied about a police action that took place as a result of a very personal and private incident involving his wife, his ill father-in-law and his caregiver at that time. Hagmann went on record and spoke about this incident shortly after it happened.”

In my opinion it is Hagmann and Quayle who need to respect boundaries. So why did they cross into “serious territory” by making a family issue public, and cause “pain and anguish”? I didn’t do that. They did.

Their SWAT/DHS/goon-squad/police/caretaker allegation caused many people anguish including Judi McLeod at Canada Free Press, who was calling me concerned about CFP’s credibility, and myself, who had to deal with that, and all those countless innocent readers and listeners who got on their knees to pray, believing that according to Steve Quayle: “DOUG WAS ALMOST KILLED THIS MORNING UNDER THE GOON SQUAD.”

I assure you that I wish they had never made whatever happened public too. If there was some family incident, no doubt, Quayle/Hagmann should have kept it private, and not blown it into a fake SWAT/goon squad/DHS incident in the alternative media.

Once again they are blaming me for something they did. Sigh.

Review: Excerpted from: Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake


June 16, 2013: The Hagmann and Hagmann Report with Steve Quayle broadcast here.

June 18, 2013: Doug Hagmann Dispels Rumors (this is the same link in Quayle and Hagmann’s Joint Statement where they take another gratuitous, under-handed shot at me).

Moreover, while trying to falsely paint me into an evil villain causing me damage and anguish, Hagmann and Quayle deliberately omitted this from their joint statement as well.

Review: Excerpted from: Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake

“While personal family stuff is typically off limits, when “Christian” truth teller alternative media stars, claiming to be watchmen, journalists, and private investigators, who have high-level insider sources, make serious and frightening allegations involving government agencies, like the DHS, that’s fair game.

Hagmann’s “Dispels the Rumors” was full of dramatic fiction.

Reality check. It was not the readers, listeners, me, the NSA or the DHS, who made Quayle and Hagmann’s fake SWAT allegation public. It’s not the IRS scandal, Benghazi, or the US dollar’s fault either.”


Please note that the link to Hagmann’s “Dispels the Rumors,” video in my article is the link in the Quayle/Hagmann joint defense.

The bottom line is this. WHERE is the police report that shows Hagmann was swatted and the DHS was involved? Neither the Millcreek or Erie, Pennsylvania police departments have a record of anything involving Doug Hagmann for the year of 2013. Had a police report existed, Hagmann could have easily released it, and redacted any personal family related information. If the DHS was involved in Hagmann being swatted, that’s newsworthy, not only for their audience but for the public at large.

I am guilty of doing follow up reporting. That’s it. Here again, Quayle/Hagmann are blaming me for something I did not do.


Reality Check #10: Quayle/Hagmann’s “Reliable” International News Editor

It has been a long, arduous, and distressing journey for me, since, Canada Free Press’ Judi McLeod, asked me to report, her senior columnist, Hagmann’s NSA false allegation. She published it here on CFP at June 4, 2013. She is also named in all three of my NSA and SWAT correction articles, and has been publishing Hagmann for about ten years, according to the CFP archives.

This is notable because, as I previously mentioned, Judi McLeod is also the “reliable” international news editor, in the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement.

This is what Quayle/Hagmann wrote about Judi McLeod:

“Hagmann was informed by a reliable editor of an international news website that Peschmann was angry that he would not promote her book about Vince Foster due to a disagreement with her conclusions outlined in her book. Ms. Peschmann immediately became extremely agitated and told this editor and others that she was going to “take [him] down,” and “do everything possible to ruin [him]” as a result.”

The fact that Judi McLeod did not step forward to face me, use her name, or even publish the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement, on Canada Free Press is really all you need to know.

Here’s why. Don’t take my word for it. Judi McLeod is not very “reliable.” See for yourself.

This was the cover story, written by Judi McLeod at CFP—Quayle/Hagmann’s reliable international news editor, on January 10, 2015, Obama’s Fundamental Transformation of America now global— the same day the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement was published.

This was the cover story at Canada Free Press, on January 11, 2015, also written by Judi McLeod, Cast of the ‘Not-so-Young and the Dangerously Restless’ White House Soap Opera.

If she is such a reliable witness and source for Quayle/Hagmann why didn’t she publish their joint statement in Canada Free Press and use her name in their joint statement?

Unlike the editors at Rolling Stone Magazine, and the NBC executives, who correct falsehoods, Judi McLeod has had well over a year to have come clean with her readers, and to apologize. She has not. That was her choice, not mine. Publish a retraction? Nope. I haven’t seen one. I’ve also been contacted by CFP readers, who tell me if they try and ask her about Hagmann’s NSA allegation they are ignored or blocked.

I think it is fair to say that Judi McLeod would say about anything she could think of about me, if it meant making Hagmann’s false NSA allegation go away.

To prove my point, and even more to expose Quayle/Hagmann’s false character assassinations, here is an email, dated July 16, 2013, from me to Judi McLeod – Quayle/Hagmann’s “reliable” international news editor. Obviously there are more emails between us.

In this one, sent after the fake SWAT/goon-squad/police/DHS/caretaker whatever it was fiasco, I am asking Judi (via Brian, her web guy) to remove my name from Hagmann’s article based on my NSA FOIA: A message from National Security Agency File Number 70900? Because for the reasons I already documented, I wanted nothing to do with Doug Hagmann as Judi McLeod knew. Despite that, instead of just linking to the article, she still published Hagmann’s article with my name in it in Canada Free Press on July 10, 2013.

We had just spoken about it again on the phone when I asked her to remove my name which is why the email starts with: “Here it is below.”

Behind that email (page 2) is second email dated June 22, 2013. It shows how Judi McLeod and I were keeping an eye with what was going on with Hagmann and Quayle after the SWAT/goon squad/caretaker/DHS fiasco. This is when I first started learning about these “Christian truth-tellers” in the alternative media – Hawk? Here Hagmann sent another frightening false alarm to Quayle (that did not materialize). Quayle posted it on his website. Vetting? Why vet? It’s the “Christian” truth tellers…

It reads:



Here’s what I JUST received:

DoD, DHS and NorthCom coordinated some type of meeting with the FEMA – all heads of all agencies.
FEMA is calling in all operational personnel – activating them
All agencies must be up to 90% “battle strength” in next 5 weeks – 70% in next 7 days.
Expect some type of domestic even in next 10-14 days.

No clue what this means – did NOT come from W, but a secondary source in DC. And I had a hell of a time getting that much.


Judi McLeod and I both agreed, “This is getting more unbelievable by the minute,” because it was unbelievable and also fake.

My “still no word,” was referencing the fact that I still did not have Hagmann’s notarized permission to file FOIAs. It’s wasn’t just me who wondered if Hagmann would give me the FOIA consent … Judi was my second witness “W” was referring too.

There is no doubt Judi McLeod has credibility issues, and rightfully so, yet she continues to publish him despite that, and gave Hagmann her blessing to rescind the FOIA permission under threat of legal action (See below).

You really have to guard your reputation. Look at how McLeod and Hagmann have tried to exploit and then destroy mine.


Email to Canada Free Press Judi McLeod: Remove My Name Plus Hagmann Credibility Issues, Another Hagmann Fal…

Moreover, it was after Quayle’s goon-squad alert when Judi McLeod started telling me her credibility issues regarding Hagmann. In the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement, they twisted and cherry picked what I reported about that to manipulate the truth and to defame me.

Quayle/Hagmann wrote this:

“Yet another issue Peschmann has raised as being untruthful is the allegation that the former website of Douglas J. Hagmann was never the target of termination by its host server, GoDaddy…”

No, that’s not what I had reported and documented—those were Judi McLeod’s words that I backed up with an email exchange between us. You can see it here and below: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?

This is what I wrote in part. “According to Judi McLeod, Hagmann’s allegation was BS. Hagmann owed GoDaddy about $50. She claimed Brian, who works for her, handled the problem. She had gone into great detail about this, and other examples of credibility issues, after Hagmann’s SWAT allegation.”

I was very clear that I had no idea what was true about Hagmann’s GoDaddy and the Obama Truth Squad Hagmann allegation—and you had to ask Judi McLeod. I did notice that Quayle/Hagmann also did not provide any proof that the Obama Truth Squad was involved in their joint statement. Nothing “authenticated” about anything either.



At the time when I sent Judi McLeod that email I was still hoping, against all hope, that the FOIA’s would prove Hagmann’s NSA allegation was true, because if not, when the FOIAs came back, I’d have to report whatever they said. That’s what honest journalists do.

If Hagmann was telling the truth about his NSA targeting allegation (he wasn’t), and Judi McLeod did not have credibility issues with him (she does), then there was nothing for either of them to be concerned about regarding the FOIAs, right? No. Read: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?

The moral of the story is, do not ask a journalist to report a false allegation. Honest ones will correct them. So will editors with integrity. This whole ordeal really is that simple.

The simple truth is this. As Doug Hagmann, Judi McLeod, and Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider “W” all knew, I didn’t want to be associated with Hagmann or Quayle. I had hoped the NSA targeting allegation was true. I tried to keep it nice with Hagmann (at that time I had no dealings with Quayle), but ultimately that was not possible.

Retract all.

Now you see why Quayle/Hagmann and their “reliable” international news editor Judi McLeod are so determined for you not to read my correction articles and will say anything? I ask you, who has the motivation to “take down,” “destroy” and “ruin” who?

I’m just a journalist. If I learn that I reported a false allegation or made other mistakes. I correct them. That’s it. It’s nothing personal. Don’t lie to journalists and expect them to cover for you.

Retract. Retract all related false statements too.

Reality Check #11: Hagmann’s Threat of Legal Action Exists

In the Quayle/Hagmann joint statement they wrote this:

“As an aside and contrary to the claims of Peschmann, Hagmann never threatened to sue Peschmann, although did inform her of the desire to seek legal counsel on matters related to the core matter. Given the curious obsession of Peschmann with Hagmann, one would think she would produce authenticated proof of her accusation. She has not, as none exists.”

That statement is false and libelous.

Yes. FINALLY!! I’m taking Quayle/Hagmann’s false statement as a green light to proceed. As I wrote here: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report? Scroll down to “Review: More on Hagmann’s threat”

Below is the last email I ever received from Canada Free Press’ Judi McLeod. Here, she is responding to me after I forwarded her Hagmann’s nasty email to me, dated August 7, 2013, rescinding his permission with the FOIAs. As you can see it came with his nice little comment (I guess according to him) about “counsel.” I view it as a threat of legal action. What about you?

As Hagmann wrote:

“I hereby revoke and rescind my authorization for you to act on my behalf in all matters regarding the FOIA request and authorization signed by me, dated and executed on 24 June 2013. To be clear, you, and/or any parties acting in concert with you, no longer have my consent to use my name, my signature, my letterhead, or any copy or facsimile thereof in any manner… It should be obvious that I have not arrived at this decision hastily, nor without counsel (emphasis mine).”

The only “parties acting in concert with” me, was Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider, “W.” He was the only person, other than Judi, who I discussed the FOIA’s with. I know, and then “W” goes on Hagmann’s radio show. Take it up with “W.” I digress…



Hagmann Rescinds FOIA Permission Nor Without Counsel with Judi McLeod Blessing


This email also covers another Quayle and Hagmann lie when Quayle/Hagmann fallaciously wrote this:

“With regard to Marinka Peschmann, a columnist terminated from a Canadian website and other political sites.”

You can also see that there is no mention of me being “terminated” by Judi McLeod because I was not terminated from Canada Free Press, Quayle/Hagmann’s “Canadian website.” The simple, boring truth is I stopped submitting articles to CFP, after Hagmann with Judi McLeod’s blessing, rescinded Hagmann’s FOIA permissions with his menacing “counsel” comment—the threat of legal action Hagmann/Quayle also inaccurately claimed does not exist.

Retract all.

Furthermore, regarding Quayle and Hagmann’s phony assertion that I was terminated from “other political” websites, this is another fabrication. Once again they provide no proof, no names because it is not true.


That being said, I stand by what I wrote in all my correction articles, including the last one:

“I also think threatening anyone, especially women, is appalling and revolting. Nobody should feel intimidated by these “Christians” or those “Christians” who tried to cover up for Hagmann or looked the other way… Remember, it is only bad when the Obama administration threatens and intimidates journalists +, but when Doug Hagmann does it, and his “Christian” cohorts look the other way, it’s good. Apparently to them, it is a part of doing God’s work.”

More consequences of fear porn and scary false allegations

It is worth pointing here in Judi McLeod’s response to me, after I forwarded Hagmann’s email to her, you see how another innocent person is fearful. As she wrote:

Had XXX panicked and followed through on filing complaints with the authorities, XXX would have had visits from Swat Teams.”

I redacted the name because that person has nothing to do with this.

This suggests that Judi McLeod is aware of the fallout and harm created by publishing frightening, unsubstantiated allegations—the type of writing she publishes by Hagmann. Indeed, fear porn generates fear that could hinder people’s judgment and lead to devastating consequences.

Okay, so now you are wondering in the part of Hagmann’s email where he was trying to paint me like I was a loon, who can’t be trusted with his “sensitive” information, when he wrote this:

“From the outset through the present, I believe that you have mistakenly perceived my purposely slow and deliberate approach to this matter as an indication of either subterfuge, incompetence or interest, all of which is absurd [this first sentence I already proved why I was right, why Hagmann was wrong and is lying now. See: Reality Check #7: NSA targeting allegation is still fake]. I prefer this method over unbridled hysteria, as such an approach often leads to mistakes or errors in judgment. As a case in point, I direct you to your e-mail of 9 July 2013 when you accused me of “putting [your] address out there for the entire world…””

Below is what Hagmann was referring to in that email. I guess according to Quayle/Hagmann, I should be condemned and thrown into the pits of hell for making a mistake like scores of people around the world have done, including:

New York Times Suffers Redaction Failure, Exposes Name Of NSA Agent And Targeted Network In Uploaded PDF

Government’s Redaction Fail Causes Exceptionally Grave Damage To Nation’s Security

Italian Media PDF Redacting Failure

PDF redaction fail: UK’s nuclear submarine secrets unveiled

Hagmann pulled another Saul Alinsky tactic. If you look at my reporting involving FOIAs, I publish the FOIAs. Moreover, the big difference between me and Hagmann is I apologized to him for my redaction error. It hurt me, not him. Hagmann digs in. He has not apologized for exploiting me to report his false NSA allegation or apologized to his audience for his deception—and now he has embarked on a false, vicious, defamatory character assassination mission.


Reality Check #12: Freedom of Information Act Requests (FOIA)

Quayle/Hagmann wrote this:

“Marinka Peschmann offered to investigate and file FOIA inquiries with the appropriate federal agencies. In fact, she was persistent. In retrospect, this persistence should have been an indication something was amiss. Pursuant to her request, however, Hagmann provided a sworn affidavit to Peschmann and cooperated fully with her investigation.”

“Persistent,” please, I already exposed that lie with email documentation here. Scroll down to “Pushy.”

In addition listen to Hagmann in his own words at BlogTalkRadio, on June 11, 2013: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2013/06/12/the-hagmann-hagmann-report. Go to approx. 42:00 where Hagamnn claims both his Intelligence Insider (Wayne Willott), and his DHS insider confirmed he was targeted by the NSA. Hagmann (around 43:00 mark) also compares his “targeting” with James Rosen at Fox News , and talks about I/we were doing (45:00 mark). As you can hear, I did not push him into anything. Moreover, as I previously reported, Rosen, who really was targeted by the Department of Justice, had nothing to do with any of this. Nothing. Zip.

Retract all.

Hagmann “cooperated fully with [my] investigation?” That’s another lie. He did not. As I just documented, Hagmann rescinded his permission with the FOIAs.


The reason why I filed the FOIAs, and not Hagmann, was because he had never filed one, and said I should do it. Frankly, I found that very surprising with his purported background. Looking back, perhaps I caught him off guard when we spoke about it. He was on the road going to a conference when I called him. When I agreed to do it. I also told him I would show him how to it as well so there would be two tracks in motion.

See: Steve Quayle exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation is fake to see the email documentation where I sent Hagmann the link showing him how to do it himself. Scroll down to “An email from me to Hagmann dated June 13, 2013. Judi McLeod is cc’d.”

Here I thought I was being helpful for his sake, and anyone else’s sake, who could possibly be targeted by the NSA. Shameful me. And like most journalist, who report serious allegations, we like to follow up.

Moreover, in short, it is my understanding that the only reason why I eventually got Hagmann’s notarized FOIA permission was because of Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider “W” as he confirmed.

As you know and as I also reported here, it was Hagmann and Judi McLeod who made it public that I was filing FOIAs, not me. At the time, I had no idea if I’d ever get Hagmann’s FOIA consent.

To be clear, while it was me who initially contacted Hagmann about filing FOIAs, it was “W,” Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider, “W,” who suggested I take it further by filing FOIAs, not only with the National Security Agency, but also with the Central Intelligence Agency, Depart of Justice, Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.

That proved to be sound advice, as evidenced by former CBS’s News correspondent: Sharyl Attkisson sues administration over computer hacking. She obtained documentation by filing a FOIA with the FBI. Not so with Hagmann. I’m still waiting for Steve Quayle to correct himself, and apologize for disparaging my character on FOIAs—libel and defamation is libel and defamation Quayle.


Look. Hagmann’s FBI FOIA came back before he rescinded his FOIA permission and threatened me with legal action.


So a question that remains is, was Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider also deceived by Hagmann, or was he a willing participant in Hagmann’s NSA false allegation? I know what he has told me since I reported my correction articles.

In light of this horrendous experience with Doug Hagmann and Steve Quayle crossing into actionable territory, I think it’s best that “W” should answer that question himself.

Quayle/Hagmann also wrote this:

“During several private subsequent telephone conversations with Doug Hagmann between December 23, 2012 and June 5, 2013, Peschmann complained of poor book sales and lack of promotion by The Hagmann & Hagmann Report.”

This is ridiculous and false. “Several” telephone conversations? Define several. Now Hagmann needs to release his phone records to show the number of phone calls between us. This way people will also see who called who.

To see the level of their duplicity, the dates cited in the Hagmann/Quayle Joint statement are key. The cutoff date is June 5, 2013. Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation was reported on June 4, 2013. Why stop there? There is a good reason why they stopped there.

Hagmann never called me back despite making it public that I was filing FOIAs during the Quayle/Hagmann SWAT/DHS/goon-squad/whatever fiasco when I didn’t have his notarized FOIA consent document. He was exploiting me, to my dismay, during this time, which is why, as I previously documented. I asked him to stop using my name via email.

Furthermore, let’s apply some logic here to address the second part of Quayle/Hagmann’s latest false allegation. If I were complaining to Hagmann about “poor book sales and lack of promotion by The Hagmann & Hagmann and Report,” and was such a nuisance, desperate for his help, then why did Doug Hagmann (and Judi McLeod) contact me and ask me to report his NSA targeting allegation?

Wouldn’t he have wanted to distance himself from me? Of course.

It defies logic because it’s not true.


Reality Check #13: Is Quayle/Hagmann’s Poison Fruits Omission Guilt?

Worse, than the damage these “Christian” truth tellers have caused me, it has been a long, damaging journey for some of their respective audiences who have been damaged by believing their false allegations and what’s called “fear porn.”

Please indulge me briefly, while I point out two glaring omissions these Christian “watchman” ignored entirely. Guilt by omission is still guilt, right?

Quayle/Hagmann joint statement ignored the damaged listeners as though they do not exist.

Review: Excerpt from: Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake

“Since I reported my NSA correction articles, I’ve been contacted by former listeners of The Hagmann and Hagmann Report, readers from Canada Free Press and other alternative outlets. Their stories are tragic, devastating, and heartbreaking.”


“Among the damage suffered from listening to and believing these “Christian” alternative media stars includes: nervous breakdowns, suicidal thoughts, anxiety issues, divorces, and relocations that broke up families. Some of their followers are now cash-poor, gold/silver/prepper supplies heavy, and living in financial ruin.”


“Poison Fruits: A letter from a former Hagmann and Hagmann Report and alternative media follower”

Quayle/Hagmann also omitted this–fundraising for Hagmann’s “ministry:”

“Please note Quayle’s fund raising dates for Hagmann’s radio ministry, and how they coincide with the fake NSA targeting allegation (June 4, 2013) and my 2nd correction article (November 19, 2014): Of course I have taken screenshots.

June 5, 2013: A Request to Stand By Doug Hagmann Financially “Thank you” So Much Steve.
November 19, 2014: Please consider standing with Doug Hagmann financially, as he has blessed us all with his radio program”

Hear for yourself how effective Quayle/Hagmann are at persuading their trusting, loyal audience of fear-based, falsehoods to make them look important and persecuted – be it from me, Michael, NSA, DHS, SWAT, Lucifer etc. They really believe anything these “Christian” truth tellers tell them. The Hagmann audience prays for their safety while supposedly fighting off the forces of evil—in this situation that includes me.

In this case, it is another dear, sincere Christian women in her 70’s. Listen to how her voice appears to quiver at times. How they can deceive a dear, Christian woman like that is beyond me? It breaks my heart. I couldn’t listen to the entire clip.

I think the evidence of their false allegations—Quayle and Hagmann don’t want anyone to see, and their actions speak for themselves. What about you?

Retract all your lies and defamation.

Incredibly there is still more that needs to be addressed. But this is it for now. I needed to go on the record as quickly as possible to stop the personal and professional damage caused by Quayle and Hagmann and prevent any violence that they have incited against me. I’ll update more as soon as can.

Thank you for your patience and for your prayers. – Marinka

6:00 pm ET: Thanks to all who pointed out some typos and structural issues. Hope I’ve got them all now.—

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75 Responses to “Trust me, I’m lying: “Christian” truth tellers Quayle and Hagmann strike back with veiled threats, character assassinations, provide nothing to refute my NSA and SWAT corrective reporting”

  1. Maysweet722 says:


    I’m so sorry that you have gone through so much for simply reporting the facts. Frankly, that’s what this has been about as it is easy to discern that you are a woman of integrity. I am shocked to learn how vicious these individuals have been in their response toward you. Frankly, it grieves my spirit.

    Why won’t they answer your valid questions? We who have given to support these men over the years not only with our precious time (listening to their shows and many prayers for them), but by giving of our hard-earned money, deserve to know the truth. All I’m reading is continued character assassination attempts by Quayle and Hagmann toward you (and Michael). As a follower of Jesus Christ, it is obvious that something is wrong here. Common sense tells me that something is terribly wrong. WHY WON’T THEY ANSWER YOUR VALID QUESTIONS???

    May God’s mercy be upon the body of Christ. We all know that it isn’t going to get any easier, but Jesus Christ is our peace. We must take our eyes off of man and keep them firmly on the ONLY ONE deserving of our worship. HE WILL NEVER, EVER FAIL!!

    God bless you, my sister.

  2. Ken says:

    Hi. Marinka,

    Thank you once again for all your hard work. As always a lengthy and well documented article. This thing has really taken on a “life of its own” hasn’t it?. What is sad is that this could all have been avoided or at least cut short with a few simple phrases: “I was wrong. I apologize. Please forgive me.” and “this is what really happened” followed by a truthful statement with no excuses.

    There is a case to be made for humility. It is endearing.

    From the numerous comments made, I detect a sincere desire by most to really forgive and move on; but this has been blocked by the refusal by some to admit the glaringly obvious. For myself I want to forgive and put this in the past but it cannot be resolved without brutal honesty by all.

    People WANT to forgive. They really do!. Why the persistant “Stumbling Block”?

    I am frankly surprised that more Pastors and Theologians have not stepped up to the plate to intervene in this. Pastor Lankford was mentioned. Did he contact you with counsel Marinka? How about the many other “pastors” “prophets” and “ministries” who have been guests on the Hagmann show? Did Nathan Leal call you? How about Tom Horn, Paul Mc Guire? Sheila Zillinski? John Kyle? Anyone?

    Oh, I see; they are minding their own business. Maybe it is “Situation Ethics” or even “Utilitarianism” or simply the idea where “the end justifies the means”. Maybe they are hiding behind “political correctness”.

    1 Corinthians 6: 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

    Personally, I do not find the concept “the end justifies the means” a particularly Christian one apart from the literal saving of someones life; but, I do not think someones life has been the issue here; rather, it seems to be “protect and save the cash flow at all cost”! Didn’t the “Mad” prophet Baalam think like that?

    Every book seller who goes on this show should examine their motives because they are validating and condoning the behavior of these men when they do.

    It should have never come to this. Let me be the “dumb ass” that opposes the Balaams. I wear that “title” as a badge of honor.


    P.S. Kudos to W for his statement and for withdrawing from these men and to V as well. Your integrity is greatly appreciated. If there are others I do not know about, KUDOS TO YOU TOO!

  3. Ashley Abednego says:

    Thank you Marinka for standing up for truth! Thank you shedding the light.

  4. Ashley Abednego says:

    They are digging a trap for you and themselves will fall into it
    Proverbs 26:26 Though his hatred covers itself with guile, His wickedness will be revealed before the assembly. 27He who digs a pit will fall into it, And he who rolls a stone, it will come back on him. 28 A lying tongue hates those it crushes, And a flattering mouth works ruin.

  5. Marinka says:

    Hi MaySweet,

    There you are. So glad you came here. Thank you for your kind words and for looking at the documentation. Your words bring me so much comfort. I agree, you and all their listeners and readers deserve the truth. Just because Hagmann and Qualye say “truth” a lot, does not make it so. Thanks again for coming to visit. God bless you too. :-) Marinka

  6. Marinka says:

    Hi Ken,

    Thank you for your comments and for coming to visit. Yes, this could have been handled much better a long time ago by telling the truth and apologizing. Instead Hagmann and Qualye have deliberately caused harm and damage. I think, as I’ve documented, people can now see how vicious they really are. They are such good liars–it just rolls off their tongues. No. Nobody has reached out from their “circle of trust.” Not one.

    Thanks for taking the time to write and for your invaluable insights. I really appreciate it. You have no idea. All best, Marinka

    No, no one in their “circle of trust” has reached out to me. Not one. I guess you are right and they are minding their business.

  7. Marinka says:

    Hi Ashley, Thanks for coming. :-) Marinka

  8. Wendy says:

    Ken said that this has taken on a life of its own. He is right. It has!

    Listening to the lady missionary who called in actually made me cry. Yes, I remember how I believed everything they said and prayed late into the night too. She is so sincerely worried for them and in such obvious pain. She really trusts them them. I remember all those feelings very well.

    The Hagmanns and Steve Quayle have so many good and wonderful listeners who sincerely love them. I hope no one else gets hurt but I have to be realistic and know that they most likely will because of the stubborn defensiveness and pride. Even to stoop so low as to mock and insult people for legitimate concerns.

    A Bully is very consistent in his behavior patterns. No hiding for very long. He cannot seem to resist “TO SAY A VERY SPECIAL HELLO, if you know what I mean”.

    How about”Bozo”?! Doug! DID YOU FORGET THE MIC WAS LIVE?

    “Bozo” can be found here at about 6 minutes in: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cfp-radio/2015/02/25/news-followed-by-stan-deyo-on-the-hagmann-hagmann-report

    The statements below provoked the concerns. Please listen and judge for yourself. They just keep digging themselves in deeper with every word.


    I honestly wonder how these people sleep at night? Maybe self possession is worse than demon possession?!

    Proverbs 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more hope of a fool than of him.


  9. donna says:

    dear marinka, tonight i listened to the hagmann report w/pastor lankford and steve quayle. i was honestly & horrifically appalled at the hypocrisy and outright ego trips i heard. For did not Jesus teach us all to love our enemies?? not once have i heard any of them, (doug, joe, pastor lankford or quayle), speak of love and of peace. granted there is is still 15 minutes left in the program, so perhaps a miracle might occur. then again, perhaps i’ve ocean front property in AZ to give away. lol

    in addition, i’d be most interested in why when Christ visits him (quayle),face to face, as he tells his devoted fans, it is most definitely without doubt (according to mr quayle) Jesus Christ, Himself. However, he alludes when Jesus comes to others, such as you or i, it MUST be a demon sent by satan or satan himself. speaking for myself re my own experiences in the aforementioned realm, his ignorant comments are utter nonsense and such a load of bs, ego oozes forth so much it practically drowns me. (GAG GAG).

    i’d always had such great respect for pastor lankford before this evening, i was left feeling downright dirty and ugly and felt such hate spew forth into the listening audience. you are quite right, marinka, their masks came off and what i witnessed was quite hideous, to say the least.talk about false teachers and false prophets!!! then again, Jesus warned us about pharisees like them!! (which begs the question-where is a good bull whip when owe needs one, eh??). i’m being bad, aren’t i?? ;) oh weeeell-for is it not honesty that the tells us the truth does indeed hurt when spoken??

    so, just why is it, i wonder, that these men spoke mainly of the Old Testament teachings and that their msg was one of fear, fear and more fear??? (hmmm, could an agenda be afoot, do you believe?? i.e.”Fear God”, not love God or that God loves us and His forgiveness and mercy is much greater than his judgment?? therefore, i can not help but wonder how many listeners were left feeling as totally empty & quilty as I now feel, in addition to feeling scared witless? i also can’t help but recall Jesus told his followers (& us), about the parable of a tree and the fruit it bears, ++ i’ve no doubt that God is about to make a major move, just as Pastor Lankford spoke of and thus, may God have mercy on us all!! But, nonetheless,it is greatly important to to remember that love can heal everything and is the only weapon which destroys evil in its tracks. one would think “watchmen”, would know that.

    so…just exactly where was the message of peace and love???? It is here I must admit to being quite suspicious of steve quayle’s so called dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddfor some time now. Michael Erevna is quite right and i applaud yours and michaels bravery in calling doug hagmann and steve quayle out for their falsehoods. obviously, those men have an agenda and it is NOT of light and love. I definitely sense evil afoot, there.

    when you and michael called them on their error of way(s), they responded with such childish egotism, i felt utterly embarrassed for them and their families. (not to mention a slew of mislead followers). not only were they egotistically childish, quayle actually had the gall to threaten y’all w/a shooting to what basically what amounted to revenge using a 45 mm. that threat was positively full of macho egotism to anyone with a brain, even one the size of a pea!! For after all, a veiled threat is STILL a threat, no matter how childish!

    i beg you remember, Jesus said that nothing which has been hidden will not be revealed. and thus, should be comforting to we honest to God truthers. I imagine quayle would say the 3 fold law is of the devil. well, i’ve got news for him-if he truly thinks what goes around doesn’t’ come back around, the man is much more delusional than i thought. one thing that stood out more than i could bear, was his statement, “judge not, lest ye be judged”. WHAT??????? does the man hear what comes out of his mouth?? Let’s face it, what he preached tonight is that all muslims are evil, all homosexuals have a one way ticket to the eternal fires of hell and Almighty God=FEAR FEAR FEAR and that only himself, the pastor and the hagmanns are worthy of visits from Jesus the Christ, and that at least he alone actually receives Christ’s msgs.

    After hearing tonight’s broadcast on hagmann and hagmann, i can truly envision these men leading the flock straight to the guillotines and telling good hearted & well intentioned Christians that their martyrdom is exactly what Jesus expects to heavenly mansions… OH PLEASE!!!! but, could that honestly be the mission of these men or orders?? seriously, after this evening, nothing would surprise me concerning steven quayle. it rather sounds like a cult, doesn’t it???

    that said, i must remind myself that love is the answer and that God expects us to love our enemies. even the stupid ones. therefore, as a true follower of Jesus Christ, I am honor bound to forgive him, despite the fact, i am irritated beyond reason that it appears he has hoodwinked Pastor Lankford and Joe Hagmann, as well. Doug’s judgment of the sinful speaks for itself, does it not??? Bird’s of a feather, you know, indeed appear to stick together.

    My prayer for you and michael is to not worry what these idiots say about you. you guys are standing in your truth and that is very admirable as well as obvious of your following Christ’s msg of love and light. i guess in the same respect, i must also pray for them. Jesus never claimed such a thing as praying for our enemies would be easy, though, now did he?? in saying that, i must admit wondering if there is any truth to doug’s cia involvement, and if so, what about quayle?? for i’ve come to feel that the silence is deafening concerning men such as hagmann, quayle and alex jones, to name a few. speaking of alex jones, perhaps he ought move to vatican city. mossad and the intelligence arm of the jesuit connection have become especially clear to me. for as i said, the silence has become deafening. for it’s what they are NOT reporting & NOT saying which has become quite clear to me, although jones’s does leave a hint or two @ times. as a month or so ago, he quite casually remarked how much the cabal despises the “goddess”. and frankly, my research and personal beliefs point to the fact, the biggest secret of satan is the female face of God.

    You see, I was born, baptised and raised a very devout catholic. i am now, however a “reformed”/former catholic. ;) the hypocrisy of the church regarding that very subject, became more than i could bear. and rejecting my catholic faith is most definitely the most difficult single thing i’ve ever endured. and that, includes the death and subsequent burying of my 19 yr old, and first born son in june of 2007. i miss going to mass more than many can imagine. and to follow the church’s teaching re women is a line i will not cross. perhaps that makes me a hypocrite as well.if so, i will face judgement when i come face to face w/the Almighty and accept HIS condemnation NOT steve quayle’s or doug hagmann!! the very idea of their self righteousness, absolutely makes my blood pressure boil!!!!! (grrrr)!!!

    i do sincerely and humbly apologize for sounding so judgmental myself, not to mention downright bitchy. however, in my defense, i must admit great disappointment in the very men who i considered my teachers as well as mighty watchmen of God.

    In conclusion, I wish to express my gratitude to you and Mr. Erevna for your honesty and bravery to stand in your truth. As an “intuitive”, I certainly feel you shall both be greatly rewarded in heaven. May the Lord bless you for that bravery in reporting the truth – and I can say with great confidence, the truth WILL win out in the end as it always does. God bless you, dear. My admiration for you as a journalist is as genuine as it is immense.

    please feel free to contact me at my email any time. i do have a great deal more intuitive-ness to speak about. and i’d certainly love to talk w/you and or mr. erevna about it. God works in mysterious ways, for certain!! This is a gift i am very, very grateful for, nor will i ever take my gift for granted either!!

    You and yours as well as michael, his wife and family are always in my prayers. please know that. as i said, i greatly admire you both. as far as i’m concerned, you are both heros!!! as far as any naysayers, including the individuals i’ve spoken of should feel any ill will…well, they can kiss my royal irish arse. (please forgive the vulgarity of that statement if it offends you). ;) God Bless!!!!

    ~Most respectfully, DJ Lowe, MO~

  10. Marinka says:

    Hi Donna,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to comment and for your insights. I really appreciate it. Welcome to my website. I’ll send you an email. Would be great to talk. I never thought, me, a journalist, and a woman would face such vicious hatred and lies from “truth telling” “men of God” for telling the truth.

    Inciting violence against me and Michael?? Unspeakable.

    I am so sorry to learn about your losses. I wish I knew the right words to say to take your pain away. Please accept my condolences.

    I don’t think that I am a hero. I am just a journalist doing what journalists should do. While I’m not a Bible expert, one of my favorite scriptures is Ephesians 5:11: Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

    Pastor Lankford? Don’t know him, but I understand that you were not alone in your belief about him. Yeah. The Hagmann/Quayle church “elder” is still MIA. Thanks again, thank you for your prayers and speak soon. Looking forward. Regards, Marinka

  11. Roth says:

    Lenin said, ‘The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.’ Who is the opposition? In this case, the Christians.

    I think Hagmann and Quayle are agents who are working for the same people they claim are going to hell. They attempt to disguise their actual “sponsor(s)” by lambasting them but who, in reality, are truly leading their flock astray to eventually slaughter. Well, maybe not slaughter…but something. Why else would Hagmann require all of that information for an app? Perhaps a data-gathering honeypot or reverse honeypot?

    They probably believe that their followers are fools so they risk being exposed by people such as yourself because they’re so arrogant they can’t imagine themselves being brought down by genuine Christians or by people who see through their act. They even leave little clues–Northeast Intelligence Network (NEIN), their symbol that looks like a tilted cross, and homelandsecurityus–which they believe the public is too dumb to figure out. http://ken-welch.com/Reports/Hagmann.html

    But I must say, Hagmann and Hagmann are really good…they really come across as humble sheep, unlike Quayle, who in my opinion, doesn’t hide his true nature at all. However, this so-called insider, W, confuses me. He seemed very supportive of you, yet still associates with Hagmann? Or not?

    Good luck and God bless!

  12. Marinka says:

    Hi Roth, Thank you for your comments. You are not alone in your thoughts. I’m glad you brought up the app. I still need to address that in more detail. Forgive me. I have been overwhelmed lately trying to stay on top of their lies … I reported on the app originally here: https://marinkapeschmann.com/steve-qualye-exposes-doug-hagmanns-nsa-targeting-allegation-fake/

    Quayle/Hagmann are now calling it their “trusted” app in their joint statement. Remember Hagmann wrote this book: Tactical Surveillance: The Investigator’s Bible an Investigator’s Guide to Conducting Surveillance Operations Spiral-bound http://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Surveillance-Investigators-Conducting-Operations/dp/B009BNBE7U/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1424991830&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=douglas+hagmann+private+investigator

    I ask people to look at these articles, consider and decide for themselves what is the deal with the “trusted” Hagmann and Hagmann Report app. So far no one has sent me an app that has the same “default” setting as the H&H app. If that changes I’ll post it here.

    Samsung SmartTV customers warned personal conversations may be recorded: Voice recognition software could transmit ‘personal or sensitive’ information: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shopping-and-consumer-news/11399677/Samsung-SmartTV-customers-warned-personal-conversations-may-be-recorded.html
    Today In Creepy Privacy Policies, Samsung’s Eavesdropping TV :http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/08/telescreen/

    This is what the Hagmann and Hagmann Report app wants:
    You can view it here (sorry, having memory problems here, scroll down): https://marinkapeschmann.com/steve-qualye-exposes-doug-hagmanns-nsa-targeting-allegation-fake/
    -Identity: find accounts on the devise
    -Location: approximate location (network based), precise location (GPS and network based)
    -SMS: Send SMS messages
    -Phone: directly call phone numbers
    -Photos/Media/Files: read the contents of your USB storage, and modify or delete the contents of your USB storage.
    -Camera/ Microphone: take pictures and video and record audio
    -Wi-Fi connection information: view Wi-Fi connections
    -Devise ID & call information: read phone status and identity
    -Other: use accounts on this devise, full network access, control vibration, view network connections

    W-the Intelligence Insider is not associated with them anymore – not because of my reporting, but because of something unrelated that happened before. Thank God.

    Thanks again so much for commenting. Regards, Marinka

  13. HumanPerson#7 says:

    For your Information (Proceed Carefully)





    Above links are provided for informational purposes. It is necessary to know and understand who and what is being dealt with at appropriate times and places. Self check and proceed with caution.

  14. Marinka says:

    Thank you so much for this.

  15. Ken Charles says:

    Marinka?? What happened? where is your old comment box? Comments? What happened to almosthuman7 ?? Wendy? Donna?.the others?? Lets not forget the “dumb ass” Ken!! Where did everyone go????!

  16. Marinka says:

    Hi Ken, Hopefully the comments will transfer over. We will see. (Fingers crossed). If not, I will put them in manually in the am. There’s lots of great information in them that should be shared.

  17. Marinka says:

    Here’s the Hagmann and Hagmann Report app. Decide for yourself.

  18. Ken Charles says:

    2 Peter 2:3 (1611 King James Bible)
    And through couetousnesse shall they with fained words, make marchandise of you, whose iudgement now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbreth not.


  19. Guest says:


    My sincere sympathy for the enormous stress, the brutal anxiety, and, burdensome workload the Hagmann / Quayle fraud event has caused you. I trust in the end you will receive the righteous justice you deserve. Not vengeance; Justice. There is a vast difference between the two; as the wicked desire vengeance, the righteous desire justice.

    This ‘event’ is not a surprise; it has been a long time coming. I say that because yours is not an isolated case with Quayle or Hagmann. I know personally that Quayle and Hagmann are faux Christians, total frauds. Their circle of cohorts consist of the same. They all work together. LIARS and FRAUDS. Liars cannot enter the Kingdom of God…Liars are cast into the Lake of Fire for eternity. Therefore, either these self defined “‘men of God”,,,these “watchmen” do not fear God or they do not believe God.

    They are reprobates.

    You are a respected professional with creditability and you have concrete evidence, therefore, I encourage you to continue to stand firmly against these despicable treacherous bullies and self serving vicious liars who have no shame, no morals, and no integrity. Their actions disgust me.

    The reason I am writing is that upon reading your article I noticed a comment made by a “Bill Johnson” on your link below.


    This is the comment:

    Bill Johnson • 19 days ago


    Get thee behind me

    You are barking up the
    wrong tree.

    “Get thee behind me Satan”…Now that, to me, is quite an odd expression to make. It is Jesus words in Luke 4:8. I do not believe in coincidence and that comment to you raised a RED FLAG, which leads me to suspect that there is no such individual as “Bill Johnson.” I will show you why; my point being is to let you know that perhaps you are not only standing up to the wicked Quayle and Hagamann, but their cohorts as well, which is par for the course. I am not computer savvy, so I do not know if you could get the real ID of “Bill Johnson” or not, but it would be great if that is possible.

    To make my point, see below link, whereby I copied said comment. Notice: “Get thee behind Satan…you are gone.”


    (also notice on this link that Leal is exposed as a plagiarist.)

    This posting was made by a former member of Watchman’s Cry, Nathan Leal’s website, (a wanna be Quayle), who is a regular on Hagmann’s. This former member was kicked off Leal’s forum because he rejected Leal’s Fear Mongering and he quotes Nathan Leal’s wife, Donna:

    leia said…

    I also got banned from their site because I refused to accept the fear mongering… Here is the PM I received!!

    Dear 92R,

    You have received
    a new private message at The Watchman’s Cry from Donna,
    entitled “Re: radiation”.

    To read the original version, respond to, or delete this message, you must log in here:

    This is the message that was sent:
    Get thee behind Satan…You are gone.

    Good bye.


    Is it just my imagination / a coincidence, that Donna Leal and Bill Johnson would BOTH make the same extremely odd expression, Get thee behind Satan? Nathan Leal’s wife, Donna, recently posted on hagmann’s blog that she was so proud that Leal and Quayle were speaking together on Hagmann’s show.

    Now to further my suspicion that the posting to your website is not from a Bill
    Johnson, is the posting below. A gentleman with a website, endtimedelusion, exposed Leal as a fraud, and in revenge, it turns out Nathan Leal stalked him on facebook. Moreover, Leal’s cohorts joined in the harassment on the victim’s website.

    Below is the link / posting regarding Leal and his cohorts stalking and harassing an opponent. If Leal and his cohorts would stalk an opponent on facebook and on said opponents website…do they know any bounds? And this is a self-proclaimed “man of God?”

    Is it possible Donna Leal is linked to the Bill Johnson on your site….GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN ??? It is an extremely odd statement for one to make, quite unusual indeed. Would this act retain Leal’s good graces with the godfather of the circle of frauds, Steve Quayle?

    (Some years ago, Leal had contacted me a couple of times to write Quayle a high recommendation on behalf of Leal regarding a slot on Quayle’s radio show. So it is clear Leal engages others to assist him in his success in the “god business”…a very lucrative business.)


    For the benefit of my readers, I have recently had Nathan Leal and several of his supporters attempting to gather information on my friends and family on Facebook, and others who they think are my family, even though I don’t use Facebook. He and some of the ardent, strident supporters of his Watchmans Cry site have been trying to use Facebook as a new
    front in attempts to discredit what I write about, because they know they don’t have scripture to back up what they do.

    Well, I guess we can’t expect any less from this “watchman” bunch. If you can’t show how the scripture supports what you are doing in your ministry, then what else is a person to do but start up the personal attacks?

    You will recognize some of the names from their past vitriolic comments here: Anne and M.A. And Nathan Leal himself recently tried to sneak onto a friend’s Facebook page, representing himself as a friend of mine to get information concerning some photographs of my family. I believe its called tagging or befriending?? Really cool, Nathan.

    That’s a great way to show everyone how you emulate Christ. You guys sure run a classy outfit over there at Watchmans Cry.

    Apparently Nathan Leal is too cowardly to debate me on scripture, and prefers to use underhanded personal attacks and attempts to snoop on my private life.

    Marinka are you aware of this; something your supporters may find of



    And here we go


    In closing I say to the poster who made the comment,

    “Get thee behind me Satan.

    You are barking up the wrong tree.”


    To success and victory…truth must prevail.



  20. Guest says:

    Basic distinctions between criminal sociopaths and psychopaths
    You may be dealing with Socio / Psychopaths

  21. Kevin says:

    Fear not Marinka. Not everyone is taken in. I just scraped my Hagmann sticker off of my car and sent it to Joe Hagmann with a brief letter about how disappointed, disheartened, and confused I am over this. This belongs on 60 Minutes or something. Peace!

  22. Kevin says:

    Nathan Leal. Five years ago? Wow. I didn’t start following H&H until about a year ago. Signs of the times alright.

  23. Kevin says:

    Why aren’t comments activated on that 2/10/15 from DH? Hmm…

  24. Marinka says:

    Kevin, Thank you for coming and for your comment. I really appreciate it.

    60 minutes or something … Yeah, Hagmann and Quayle’s audience would be shocked to see that the evil villian they manufactured, who is supposedily out to get them, is just a little, old, broken-down journalist -me. It’s been disheartening as well to see their so-called “Christian” “circle of trust” remain silent. Sounds cult-like/mob-like to me. Maybe the “circle of trust” are afraid Quayle and Hagmann will attack them too? Incite violence? Don’t know. But what I do know is their silence is their sanction. Thanks again for coming to visit and for your kind words. All best, Marinka

  25. Marinka says:

    Hmmm is right. Speaks volumes. The comments probably aren’t enabled for the same reason why they didn’t provide links of my articles in their “joint statement” so their audience could look at the documentation and draw their own conclusions. Terrible. – M

  26. Marinka says:

    A reader sent me this. Enjoy! Is this like Hagmann and Quayle’s
    “Christian” mob-like, “Circle of Trust” I was NEVER a part of?
    See: Reality Check #5: Big Lies, Little Lies

  27. Marinka says:

    Hagmann and Quayle’s “Circle of Trust.” Seriously.

  28. Ken Charles says:


    Apart from the untruths these soap opera dis-information shills spew, perhaps their biggest crime is that of DISTRACTION. They keep Christians busy and out of the way by keeping them looking down the wrong or perhaps truthful but irrelevant rabbit holes.and stressing the IMPORTANCE of Giants, nephilum and now Fairies. THEY ARE WASTING YOUR TIME!

    [Ecclesiastes 12:12 But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. 13The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.]

    Please take the time and read this transcript of a talk given by a Canadian Christian journalist who gave up his life to tell this truth. Serge Monast. This information is very accurate and the plan is being carried out now as you read this. Please read and consider this information carefully and prayerfully. It could very possibly completely change the way you SEE things and the way you HEAR things!





  29. SWORDOFTRUTH says:

    For the light will burn those in the darkness and their wickedness will shine as plain as day.

  30. God's Kid says:

    Read Jude. The only person we can trust is the Lord, His Word. I wrote to Steve Quayle about his preaching , studies and money making. I wrote him a letter in love and quoted some scripture. I received an abusive letter back! The Word is like a two edged Sword. Praise God, the Holy Spirit opened my eyes! Hallelujah! He SET ME FREE!

  31. Marinka says:

    Hi, Thanks for commenting and welcome to my website. I wish I could say that I was surprised by Quayle’s ugly, abusive response to your kind, loving letter, but then I would be a liar. Delighted to know that you have been set free. :-) Marinka

  32. God's Kid says:

    Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. You are exposing. Thank You dear Marinka. Thank You for the kind reply!

  33. God's Kid says:

    Just looked up the two emails…… I just posted this scripture and he did not reply:

    9 And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. 10 The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth. 11 The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd. 12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

    13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. 14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

  34. Marinka says:

    Perfect. It really is that simple. Thanks for sharing. While I’m not a bible expert I do know that these “Christians” want their listeners’ time spent and focused on the Occult, Lucifer, “spinning” and all sorts of corrupting, disturbing things of darkness. What does that say?

  35. God's Kid says:

    Here is Steve Quayles response from my letter that was written in God’s Love:


  36. God's Kid says:

    Stephen Quayle 3/7/14
    to me

    On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:10 AM, “Linda Covert” wrote:

    > Dear Steve,
    > I have so enjoyed how the Holy Spirit has used you to educate me and others
    > with your wonderful testimony. Your brother against brother and teaching
    > on forgiveness and especially teaching Christ shed His Blood for ALL sin.
    > I am 57 years old and through His Power He raised me from complete brain
    > death. In 1974, at the age of 17, my brain was crushed into my C-1 and I
    > aspirated bile into both of my lungs. I was without oxygen for 30 minutes
    > and by the time I was hooked up to a ventilator, my brain stem had no
    > activity for 12 hours. The doctors told my parent’s that because I had no
    > brain activity, they should make plans for a burial. I remember sitting up
    > in my bed and my precious Savior the Lord Jesus let me know that is was not
    > time yet. The President of United States doctor was contacted and I was
    > transferred to Saint Frances Hospital in Peoria, Illinois where my doctor
    > took my case. He called me last year to see how I was doing. He is still
    > very active and working at the University of Illinois in educating new
    > brain surgeries. This man walked into my room with the Bible. The
    > Catholic nuns wanted me to become a nun. Needless to say, the things that
    > transpired after this, I got saved. There is absolutely NO scientific
    > reason why I lived.
    > I then went out into the desert and was tempted by satan, but NEVER denied
    > my Lord. I’ve had visions , I could write book after book, but I don’t.
    > However, I share the Word with many people who are dying. I share the
    > mercy of Christ and ALWAYS remind Believers that they will overcome by the
    > Blood and the word of their testimonies.
    > I was so excited when I saw that you are having a conference in Bozeman.
    > My husband REALLY felt inspired to come to beautiful Bozeman. My kids live
    > in Victor Idaho with the background of the Majestic Tetons. Your
    > photograph is un paralleled.
    > However, I was listening to the God are Returning tonight and I felt so
    > convicted in my heart. It was causing sweats a the scripture came to me
    > from Romans. Avoid Divisions
    > 17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences
    > contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18For they
    > that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by
    > good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 19For your
    > obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf:
    > but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple
    > concerning evil. 20And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet
    > shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen
    > The Father is ALL powerful and yes, the demons are rampant in the heavens
    > above, but so many people including myself noticed that more time is given
    > to satan and the world. So many people can’t handle this stuff. They are
    > in fear and scared, these are the believers. How many people can handle
    > this stuff. His Sheep Will Hear His Voice, we won’t be deceived, those who
    > seek Him in the Word Daily. I noticed fear coming over me. Please
    > consider the feeble. Preach LOVE……Preach Deliverance……I know that
    > you are brilliant and a researcher, but you are frightening some of us
    > believers. We need to speak of good things, good repots, things that are
    > lovely.
    > We want to come to Bozeman to be fed spiritually, not about Aliens and
    > Fallen Angels….They are going to go into the lake of fire. I pray the
    > Blood around my adult children and grandchildren and I don’t want to put
    > fear into the young believers mind.
    > Yes, satan will be crushed under our feet shortly.
    > I still want to attend, nothing but dead and perverted churches the world
    > over. Please let me know that this conference is about the Lord,
    > Forgiveness and the Word of God.
    > We need to build each other up in Love.
    > I still need to pray about coming.
    > In Christ and His Salvation!
    > Hallelujah,

  37. God's Kid says:

    Stephen Quayle 3/7/14
    to me

    On Mar 7, 2014, at 1:10 AM, “Linda Covert” wrote:

    > Dear Steve,
    > I have so enjoyed how the Holy Spirit has used you to educate me and others
    > with your wonderful testimony. Your brother against brother and teaching
    > on forgiveness and especially teaching Christ shed His Blood for ALL sin.
    > I am 57 years old and through His Power He raised me from complete brain
    > death. In 1974, at the age of 17, my brain was crushed into my C-1 and I
    > aspirated bile into both of my lungs. I was without oxygen for 30 minutes
    > and by the time I was hooked up to a ventilator, my brain stem had no
    > activity for 12 hours. The doctors told my parent’s that because I had no
    > brain activity, they should make plans for a burial. I remember sitting up
    > in my bed and my precious Savior the Lord Jesus let me know that is was not
    > time yet. The President of United States doctor was contacted and I was
    > transferred to Saint Frances Hospital in Peoria, Illinois where my doctor
    > took my case. He called me last year to see how I was doing. He is still
    > very active and working at the University of Illinois in educating new
    > brain surgeries. This man walked into my room with the Bible. The
    > Catholic nuns wanted me to become a nun. Needless to say, the things that
    > transpired after this, I got saved. There is absolutely NO scientific
    > reason why I lived.
    > I then went out into the desert and was tempted by satan, but NEVER denied
    > my Lord. I’ve had visions , I could write book after book, but I don’t.
    > However, I share the Word with many people who are dying. I share the
    > mercy of Christ and ALWAYS remind Believers that they will overcome by the
    > Blood and the word of their testimonies.
    > I was so excited when I saw that you are having a conference in Bozeman.
    > My husband REALLY felt inspired to come to beautiful Bozeman. My kids live
    > in Victor Idaho with the background of the Majestic Tetons. Your
    > photograph is un paralleled.
    > However, I was listening to the God are Returning tonight and I felt so
    > convicted in my heart. It was causing sweats a the scripture came to me
    > from Romans. Avoid Divisions
    > 17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences
    > contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. 18For they
    > that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by
    > good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. 19For your
    > obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf:
    > but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple
    > concerning evil. 20And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet
    > shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen
    > The Father is ALL powerful and yes, the demons are rampant in the heavens
    > above, but so many people including myself noticed that more time is given
    > to satan and the world. So many people can’t handle this stuff. They are
    > in fear and scared, these are the believers. How many people can handle
    > this stuff. His Sheep Will Hear His Voice, we won’t be deceived, those who
    > seek Him in the Word Daily. I noticed fear coming over me. Please
    > consider the feeble. Preach LOVE……Preach Deliverance……I know that
    > you are brilliant and a researcher, but you are frightening some of us
    > believers. We need to speak of good things, good repots, things that are
    > lovely.
    > We want to come to Bozeman to be fed spiritually, not about Aliens and
    > Fallen Angels….They are going to go into the lake of fire. I pray the
    > Blood around my adult children and grandchildren and I don’t want to put
    > fear into the young believers mind.
    > Yes, satan will be crushed under our feet shortly.
    > I still want to attend, nothing but dead and perverted churches the world
    > over. Please let me know that this conference is about the Lord,
    > Forgiveness and the Word of God.
    > We need to build each other up in Love.
    > I still need to pray about coming.
    > In Christ and His Salvation!
    > Hallelujah, Linda

  38. Marinka says:

    Whoa. Outrageous, appalling, despicable… forgive me, I’m trying to remain lady like… but it is very difficult. Thank you so much for sharing. Reprehensible. These are the same people who say, “touch not my anointed?” Anointed by who? Rhetorical statement and self explanatory. Thank you so much for sharing this.

  39. Marinka says:

    Thank you so much for posting them together.

  40. Ashleyabednego says:

    I am sorry you had to go through that. I know what a spiritual punch it the gut that must have felt like. Praise God for the truth and those who are willing to stand and expose evil no matter what the cost like Marinka. When Jesus comes and creates a new heaven and earth as it is written in Revelation about the millennial reign and if someone dies at 100 they will be mourned as dying young I imagine if there are history classes for children they will read all about this and Marinkas bold courage to expose evil no matter what the cost.

  41. Cliven Bundy says:

    Ok so forgive me but where did quayle say anything out of line in the email? How would your flesh react when you receive email after email telling you that you’re not doing it the way they perceive is best. I’m not saying the guy doesn’t has flaws but, for goodness sake, what do you expect? I’ve looked over all your work, john b wells, josh reeves, and the likes who put these guys on blast as false christians yet I never hear these guys stand up for Jesus. I swear you all spend more time busting other people’s chops than actually helping others. you say you are only about the truth and the information yet you spend so much time on your opinion of others and your perception of reality (I’d say alot more than you realize) Is that not hypocritical?

    my view of these guys is definitely subject to change but the “solid evidence” that you have against them just doesn’t do it for me ( in comparison to how much time you guys spend on it) Is there other information that you can point me to that I may not be aware of? Funding ties? cfp connections? Other possible indoctrinations? anything

  42. Cliven Bundy says:

    Also I’ve noticed you participate bd in his show before. did something happen there that caused you to start looking or did you just find this particular situation as suspect? is that the fact that they go on the AJ show? or are you upset like John B wells because they didn’t come to his news show or call him back after being on the AJ show? interesting enough that Dave Hodges and Art Bell approve of hagmann/quayle while at the same time honoring jbw’s work. Heck, jbw loves to bash quayle yet quayle still has the decency to post articles/events of pertinent info to his website that involve jbw….. where is the disconnect?

  43. Cliven Bundy says:

    Yea i bet God prefers “I hate Clinton” tshirts over exposing darkness…..

  44. Marinka says:

    Welcome to my website. Thanks for coming. I think there is a disconnect. What does AJ, Bell etc. have to do with this? I’m just a journalist who corrected false allegations. Looking forward to hearing back from you. – M

  45. Marinka says:

    Let’s keep this simple. I’m just a journalist who corrected false allegations. I think you need to read the other articles for the evidence you are seeking. There is plenty more there.

    I’m not sure how you concluded that I spend time on other people’s opinions and/or my perception of reality (a lot more than I realize and I’m a hypocrite?)–based on what? My articles are documented. Also I don’t know who Josh Reeves is – maybe you are mixing me up with someone else? – M

  46. Marinka says:

    Hi again. There is big difference between exposing darkness and normalizing darkness, yes?

  47. Cliven Bundy says:

    What hodges and bell have to do with this is that they approve of the duo we are discussing. You imply that you caught H&H red handed when there is still several possible/legitimate explanations of what you are investigating. This incident was almost a year ago if I’m correct? With that being said, I can safely assume JBW isn’t the only one to get his hands on your research about H&H (in reference to bell/hodges) yet they still choose associate. Either no one has read your information (which I don’t believe), hodges has skin in the game (which makes no sense), or you are wrong.

    what AJ has to do with this is that I noticed that the only people that bash H&H and Quayle are the same people that can’t stand AJ, butttt hurt bc they didn’t get a call back from AJ, or people who think they’re so important that they “must be heard by AJ and if Im not then AJ is a plant” types…..

  48. Cliven Bundy says:

    Well for one thing, the fact that you’re pandering to a lady that you dont know who decided to correct Steve Quayle on his deliverance of information to mold it to her satisfaction and use it as further evidence against quayle is foolish, especially from a non bias professional reporter….This comes off as opinion driven and hypocritical to what you claim you are about

  49. Marinka says:

    Pandering to who? If you are referring to this lady’s experience below I think SQ’s response speaks volumes and does not need commentary from me. That she wanted to share it with others was her choice not mine, but I’m glad she did, This is a comment section after all.

  50. Cliven Bundy says:

    What you said is an example of the perception dilemma I pointed out in a previous comment. It’s coming whether you like it or not. you can call it normalization if you want but reality is that evil is becoming normalized (days of noah). with that, Satan has his ways of deceiving even deeper and in order to get out of that pit, some of us need to know exactly how he works and how we’ve been deceived so deeply in order to have a desire to get out. you may find it a surprise that the words of Steve Quayle can be quite comforting. we are instructed to expose evil….for some, it scares them

  51. Cliven Bundy says:

    So much for lack of commentary…….”I wish I could say that I was surprised by Quayle’s ugly, abusive response to your kind, loving letter, but then I would be a liar. Delighted to know that you have been set free. :-) Marinka”

    That would be pandering

  52. Marinka says:

    With all do respect, you should relax and stop seeing demons were there aren’t any. Don’t know Bell. Quayle sponsors Hodges. My life’s ambition is not to be on AJ’s radio show. Is it yours? If people have issues with AJ what does that have to do with me? Nothing. If you want to keep listening to these “Christians” that’s up to you, not me. My hands are clean.

  53. Marinka says:

    That’s true. I was not surprised at all based on facts. What’s incorrect about the statement? Her letter was lovely, Quayle’s response was awful. 1+1=2

  54. Cliven Bundy says:

    Lol you get involved in the truth exposing movement and dont know who Art Bell or Josh Reeves are…..that’s interesting. given your research and the fact you’re still on the witch hunt
    a year later shows that you may be the one that needs to take a chill pill. nobody’s hands are clean sister…..

  55. Marinka says:

    Okay. If Quayle is comforting to you then listen to him. I’m not sure what you want from me. I just corrected false allegations.

  56. Marinka says:

    Those are your words, not mine. I am not a part of the truth exposing movement which is why I guess I don’t know who these people are. What witch hunt are you referring to? This piece was published in February. I have not published anything on this since then. I think you might be on a witch hunt. Yes?

  57. Cliven Bundy says:

    Lets correct that… her letter was very well written. One downfall of woman, especially in these times, is that they take things the wrong way and find many truths as hurtful. Especially American women; they consider their opinion so important and when somebody puts them in their place, they act like a snake bit them or something…… she stepped out of her place….. with that being said, I will agree with you on something. His response was a little harsh but if you think about it, the guy probably gets the same email over and over and over again. what I’m ultimately getting at is none of us are perfect and why would we ever expect each other to be? why pride yourself on trying to “expose” individuals who are leading ppl to Jesus and doing everything they can do. Steve has many flaws but I would suggest looking in the mirror first ….

  58. Cliven Bundy says:

    Relax with the technicalities…..you understand what I mean. I saw you in the comment section and decided to call you out on your false judgment and hypocrisy . I don’t see how that is in any relation to a witch hunt…

  59. Cliven Bundy says:

    Playing clueless and blameless doesn’t work very well anymore. ….

  60. Marinka says:

    Excuse me? I am happy to respond to valid points regarding me and my reporting. Not you drawing conclusions based on thin air and people I don’t know. Otherwise you are wasting my time. If you refuse to look at the evidence and still want to listen to them and give them your money that’s your business. Don’t say that I did not warn you, but I honestly have better things to do then respond to your no there, there accusations. Good luck to you. All best, Marinka

  61. Marinka says:

    Progress. Wonderful. Delighted.

    Now if you would check your ego.. who are you to lecture me about needing to look in the mirror? I’m not running around as a “Christian ministry” seeking “tithes” and “offerings” as a “watchman” making false allegations, scaring people and selling them stuff they don’t need.. Again, for your sake, not mine, find out where they are leading people. You won’t like the answer. What’s that scripture? The devil comes in as an angel of light…. Take good care. – Marinka

  62. Cliven Bundy says:

    Says the lady who sells silly, obnoxious tshirts and writes a book stating the obvious while leaving her readers with a false hope of a possible political solution? Who are you to lecture people on what you think steve quayle is about? If it’s that link you sent me, then that’s sad. I read that link and the self-righteous author uses scripture after scripture for correlations that don’t match. He doesn’t even compare an apple to an orange….more like iron to clay.

    Ego problem? Are you speaking for yourself? I have anger issues and wild tongue, Lord knows that. I say things that are inappropriate at times and I apologize for that (the women comments). Trust me, I pay for it….

  63. Cliven Bundy says:

    Stuff they don’t need? What would that be….because I know it isn’t a hillary hating t-shirt and bumperstickers…..just saying

  64. Marinka says:

    I sincerely wish you success with working on your anger issues. Misrepresenting books, articles, even T-shirts – (LOL), people and their motivations is wrong. Lying is terrible too – my books, and where did I give anyone false hope that there was a political solution etc.? It concerns me with how easy you lie and misrepresent things. It’s obvious that you have not read my books or articles.

    I’m truly sorry that you have been deceived by them, but you can lash out at someone else. Not me. My hands are clean. Know that you are not alone. It’s okay. Good luck to you. All best, Marinka

  65. Cliven Bundy says:

    Expose the left and skipping over the right, especially that little Bush stunt we went through, is a silent allegiance for the undisclosed. Interpretation is there whether you meant it or not. The average reader always comes to conclusion whether you provide one or not. That would be leading a horse to water…..

    Also, food is more important than bumperstickers, Ms. United Nations….

  66. Marinka says:

    Wow. Why so ugly and uninformed? Obviously you have not read my book Crime and Incompetence. Had you read it then you would know that I have no problem calling out corruption on both sides of the aisle. Instead once again you are making absurd, false statements.

    Have you read my articles on the RoE’s etc. as more examples that prove you are lying? Obviously not. Please stop lying and misrepresenting me and my work.

    Are you condemning just me for the T-shirts or everybody else who makes T-shirts too?

    You are all over the place. Let’s be clear and factual. And your point for calling me Ms. United Nations… Yes, I covered the UN. Am I responsible for everything they do to? Please do get some help with your anger issues. Wishing you all the best. Take care. Marinka

  67. Cliven Bundy says:

    Then that should be your next book, “My Boss with Pants Down: An Illunimating Road to Truth”. Lol yes I read your brush over of the right. Good job “legitimizing” . Ultimately, ones work (or motive) can be summed up by the overall narrative, which in your case is H&H, Quayle and the left. Actually that is the only thing that can be found when on your site besides the brief description of the book you just mentioned……interesting. oh and one scripture ;).

    Remember my judgement came from your occupation/profit of judgement. Cheers

  68. Marinka says:

    Sigh. Shaking my head…

  69. Cliven Bundy says:

    Marinka, I just read this comment and thought of us going back and forth and your issue with Quayle and H&H. Think it could be helpful for the both of us when put into context…..and I’m sorry for being a jacka**….again…seriously, I just hate seeing christians attack christians and professionally benefiting from it….anyways, this is a reader’s response to a bash piece from a disgruntled ex-hagmannite (michael erevna/link at the bottom):

    “I appreciate the well-placed passion in this last reply. It reassures me that you have the right intentions in being “judgmental” about such matters and that your motivation is to truly exhort others to focus only on the true and only door, Jesus Christ.

    I wish to caution you on how you express some of your assumptions, as the matter has caused some dissension between us where it didn’t need to be. It’s a big mistake to assume and represent my position as though I was “caught up” in the gospel of doom and gloom. I am aware of it and its dangers, and I defend the right of a minister of the gospel to use it – but only as far as it draws more people to Christ. When it serves as a distraction from Christ in the form of “worrying” about what the future may bring, one only needs to turn to scripture and to the role of the Holy Spirit to know and understand that God does not give us a spirit of fear (2 Tim 1:7) but one of power, and love and of a sound mind.

    I share your concern that some “ministries” seem to cater to the natural temptation to want to know the future – which God warns us against – but when it’s given to exhort the brethren to NOT rely on carnal security but to rely on God and what God provides for them to share with others, I’m not going to stand in the way.

    I trust that we’re looking to the same source of truth – God’s (original) word – I just think we have a different way of seeing and characterizing all the things that are working together to fulfill His plan. God will separate the tares from the wheat when He is ready to do so, and we may be surprised to see that some of what we believed to be tares will stand and some of what we believed to be wheat will be burned.”

    I guess it comes down to the difference that I believe we don’t need to spend a lot of our time pointing out the “tares” to everyone who’ll listen, while you feel it’s of great importance. I believe once the Holy Spirit has a hold on our lives we will be able to withstand the grandest of otherwise potential illusions while it seems you depend a lot on intellectual prowess and “discernment”. I don’t think either of us are “wrong”. In any case, our desire is that people are drawn to Christ – the ONLY way to the Father – and not to what any one of us mortals believes or has to say.”


  70. Marinka says:

    I have not benefited financially from this at all. In fact, they have caused me incalculable damages and loses. These “Christian watchmen” have defamed and incited violence against me –(a woman) that I live with everyday. They provided nothing to refute any of my reporting–but more confirmation the allegations were false.

    Is that how decent people act, let alone “Christians?” Don’t you see?

    I did not expose or correct Christians, I exposed/corrected “Christians.” There is a big difference.

    Please learn about the 80/70/60 percent truth, 20/30/40 lies illustration. It’s the smaller percentage that is pure poison. Also please study inversion.

    Thank you for your apology. I really appreciate it. Good night. M

  71. Nomor says:

    Cliven Bundy, I do not normally make comments online. However, when one witnesses evil and does nothing, then one is just as evil as the evil doer. Therefore, in good conscious, I vehemently object to your words for Marinka.

    You insult her, you belittle her, you undermine her, and you attack her integrity and good character, and in so doing, you have made it perfectly clear that you do not know what you are talking about. Yes, we are all flawed, nonetheless, regarding this criminal saga with Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann, Marinka’s hands are clean indeed.

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    Marinka is an investigative reporter. That means her work is based on research, facts, and truth. Without her knowledge Marinka was set up in Quayle/Hagmann’s Fraud Scam. She could have gone along with the Cabal of Fraud known as the “Circle of Trust” but she chose to stand for TRUTH and INTEGRITY. When she learned of the Fraud, she gave Quayle/Hagmann ample time to make good and to come clean. They did not. Instead, they attacked her character and endangered her successful journalist career, and it was all based on total LIES. Upon their exposure, their public
    online defense was completely pathetic, impotent, and totally worthless. If
    Mr. Quayle’s and Mr. Hagmann’s allegations about Marinka were based on facts, they could have sued her for Defamation, Slander, and Libel, but they could not, they cannot, because they are LIARS, and that is verified by

    This Cabal had to be exposed for what it is sooner or later. Unfortunately, it took making Marinka a patsy, an innocent victim. It takes courage to be honest and have strong moral principles, the attributes that Marinka has shown to have, and deep down, I believe that it would have had to take a person such as Marinka to bring to light that which was hidden and that which has harmed others. Yet, still, the attacks come. Vile attacks.

    I am one of those people who were harmed and I know mine is not as isolated case.

    What can be said of those who attack the messenger, ignore facts, ignore truth, attack principals of morality, and continue to support Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann? What is left to say? Only that birds of a feather have much in common and should be left to their own devices. So Cliven Bundy enjoy your devices.

    Btw, Steve Quayle has recently thrown his former business associate “V” under the bus. Who is next? Will Mr. Quayle throw his long time business associate and friend Doug Hagmann under the bus too, or will Doug Hagmann throw Steve Quayle under the bus?

    During a Hagmann Radio Show Steve Quayle made a truly EVIL veiled threat to bring harm to Marinka Peshmann. Is this man so egotistical, such an extreme narcissist, that he has lost touch with reality and believes that he can get away with anything at all?

    Thank you Marinka for all you have done. Hopefully you have saved others from being victims, as you were and as I was. No one could have done better Marinka. I commend you and respect you and I am sorry that you were victimized. May the attacks and vile criticism against you only provide to further strengthen you to stand firm until justice is served.

  72. JeepersCatz says:

    Marinka – you will probably never see this post as this article is over a year old, but I just stumbled upon it and I wanted to let you know that I applaude your journalistic integrity and your discernment to see false prophets. My mother listens to H&H and SQ and buys their books and from the very beginning I have wondered what these people are up to. Their premises are nonsense and at the very least they show an alarming lack of discernment and at the worst they are borderline insane. I do not pretend to know the mind of God but my gut instinct tells me the hooey these people are peddling is damaging and misleading. God has not called us to a spirit of fear but of hope. You have been so professional and kind in your responses to the rude remarks on this website and I admire you for that. Keep up the good work, it is not in vain.

  73. Marinka says:

    Dear JeepersCatz,

    Thank you so much for taking the time to share your kind words and sentiments with me. I really appreciate it. Yes, I see your post! I hope you are right and my corrective reporting is not in vain. :-) Thank you.

    All best to you, and yours, and especially to your dear trusting mother. She is not alone.