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Steve Quayle Exposes Doug Hagmann’s NSA Targeting Allegation is Fake … Updated

19 November 2014 41 Comments

Important update. Scroll down in RED

Normally in journalism you correct yourself in 48-72 hours. In this case, it has been more than 30 days since I reported my National Security Agency (NSA) correction story. Since then none of the principals have corrected anything with me or apologized to their own audiences.

If you have questions about this please refer to my first article, Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?

Also be sure to listen to Hagmann in his words in the videos below.

Now I’m simply going to report what I’ve uncovered since then.

I’ve obtained more evidence that Doug Hagmann, Judi McLeod, the owner and editor of Canada Free Press—whom I was writing for at the time, and “W,” Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider, also known as Agent Wayne, asked me to report a false allegation. That’s unconscionable.

Shortly after I reported their allegation, Doug Hagmann threatened me with legal action for trying to obtain actionable evidence via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests that the NSA had targeted him. He had claimed the NSA was trying to find his intelligence (“W”) and Department of Homeland Security insider sources. He had Judi McLeod’s blessing.

For those who are not familiar with FOIA, FOIA gives a person access to potentially obtain federal agency records that are enforceable in court. It’s an invaluable tool for investigative journalists.

It can now be reported that Steve Quayle is an accomplice in protecting Doug Hagmann and his NSA targeting allegation

I will now prove it to you.

Enter the media person, who Doug Hagmann had been speaking to when the NSA supposedly targeted him. His name was redacted (blocked out) in Hagmann’s voluntary statement/affidavit in the original story the trio asked me to report.

Judi McLeod had also emailed me an un-redacted version when she asked me to report Hagmann’s allegation. I knew all along who Doug Hagmann claimed the other person was.

Because the mystery “investigative journalist” outted himself after I corrected my reporting of Doug Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation—which is what honest investigative journalists should do when they can no longer stand by a story based on the evidence, now I’m free to report it.

It was Steve Quayle of SteveQualye.com (see below for the email documentation).

REVIEW: Below is the first email from Judi McLeod to me, dated June 3, 2013, regarding Doug Hagmann’ s NSA allegation. It’s entitled “Important.” It includes the un-redacted (unblocked) version (except for his phone numbers) of Doug Hagmann’s voluntary statement/ affidavit.

Please download this PFD version of the email, print it out and compare it with what I’m reporting and documenting next.

Note that Steve Quayle’s name appears on p.2 of the PDF—as the person Doug Hagmann claimed he had been speaking with when the NSA showed up on his telephone’s caller id.

See Doug Hagmann’s “voluntary statement” here and at CFP here with Steve Quayle’s name blocked out.

This email also includes what Doug Hagmann wrote to Judi McLeod about his “source” and the NSA targeting allegation. The “source” is “W”—Wayne whose last name also begins with a “W.”

The names that I blocked out in black marker are other journalists who are not involved.

Also look at the second email below the PDF and video because it provides additional evidence that Wayne helped me with the NSA article, despite what he has been telling people.

Doug Hagmann's NSA Targeting Allegation with "W" his "Intelligence Insider"

Doug Hagmann needs to produce the original voluntary statement/affidavit – sworn under the penalty of perjury. He claims he took an oath before a notary and/or a municipal court judge publicly regarding this. As I originally reported, I never saw a sworn affidavit only the email versions. Over thirty days have passed since then.

Listen to Doug Hagmann talk about the unnamed, well known “journalist” by clicking here you know now is Steve Quayle.

See one of my email exchanges with “W”—Wayne, Doug Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider referenced in Doug Hagmann’s “voluntary statement,” as the intelligence source, who provided information on “Benghazi.”

Wayne spent a significant amount of time on the phone with me going over the original story about Doug Hagmann’s NSA allegation entitled, How Extensive is the NSA Domestic Surveillance of U.S. Media? Is it legal? As you can see it was a late night.

You can compare our email below with the original article here and at CFP here.

Review: Easier to read originals will be provided as necessary.

Update-(this is taken from my initial NSA correction story). Also review:
Note the timestamp on this June 4, 2013 email between me and Hagmann. The story was published at CFP hours later. I had sent the story to both Hagmann and “W” to ensure I had the correct information (according to them) before the article was published. “W” is also known as Agent Wayne.

Review:

At the time when Judi McLeod, Doug Hagmann and Wayne asked me to report the NSA allegation, I was not very familiar with Steve Quayle’s work or with what people call the “alternative” or “truther” media. My bio.

First, I want to apologize to anyone who has been adversely affected by this.

Second, I want you to know that I’ve had a good relationship with Judi McLeod as a journalist, submitting articles that I was paid for when she published them.

Third, this was the first time Judi McLeod directly had asked me to write an article for her. Since I am an experienced journalist, who walked away from “mainstream” media outlets after they killed my stories as other journalist are also doing, I was blindsided at the lack of depth and integrity I saw in the alternative media when the credibility problems with Doug Hagmann first surfaced shortly after his NSA allegation was published (more on this further below).

Steve Quayle was represented to me by “W” as a seasoned talk-show host appearing on shows like Coast to Coast, Alex Jones, as a regular on Doug Hagmann’s radio show, and a prolific author. Wayne also explained that Hagmann had a huge following within the Christian community like Quayle does.

Now let’s review the evidence. You decide.

The person that “W”—Wayne presented to me as a prolific and well-respected author was not the person I met on email.

As a seasoned, traditional journalist with a critically acclaimed Hollywood memoir that was made into a documentary that aired on HBO about Robert Evans, I’ve worked with and reported on controversial and high- profile people for years. Evans was one of them.

The former Vice President of Productions of Paramount Pictures, Evans was responsible for the production of films including: The Odd Couple, The Detective, Love Story, Rosemary’s Baby, The Godfather, Serpico, The Great Gatsby, and as a producer for films including: Chinatown, Marathon Man, and Black Sunday. Evans also received the David O. Selznick lifetime achievement award presented to him by Dustin Hoffman.

To be brief, I’ve also covered the United Nations, presidential campaigns, written books on Bill and Hillary Clinton (here and here), based on my cloak and dagger experiences with a former Clinton White House insider, and served as a judge for the International Emmy Awards in the news category.


In an email exchange with Steve Quayle that was forwarded to me, initially, Steve Quayle declared that my reporting was, “TOTAL BULL MANURE” without providing any evidence to refute what I had reported. He writes his emails in CAPS like he is screaming.

Then Steve Quayle outted himself when he vouched for Doug Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation by confirming it with a very different version from Doug Hagmann’s detailed reported account.

They can’t keep their stories straight.

I immediately knew when I received that email that Steve Quayle was not telling the truth. Now I had even more proof that I had been asked to report a false allegation.

Review:

Text (emphasis mine) for easier reading.

———- Forwarded message ———-
From: Stephen Quayle
Date: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: Did Doug Hagmann make up his NSA allegation he asked me to report?
To: XXXXXXXXX

IT WAS NOT A LIE IT WAS HIS FOIA REQUEST NUMBER WHICH ONLY THE MOST NAIVE PERSON WOULD EVER BELIEVE THAT THE NSA WOULD TURN OVER HIS FILE NUMBER LET ALONE THE CONTENTS-YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE-YOU SHOULD HAVE GONE TO DOUG BASED ON MATTHEW 18–YOU VIOLATED THE SPIRIT OF THE WORD OF GOD-AND I TRUST DOUG AS I WAS ON THE PHONE THE DAY THE NSA SHOWED UP ON HIS WEB BROWSER AND EVEN SENT HIM THE SAME THING THAT SHOWED UP ON MINE-ONLY A FOOL JUDGES A MATTER ON HEARING ONE SIDE OF THE MATTER AND DOUGS MISTAKE WAS LISTENING TO HER IN THE FIRST PLACE -YOU ARE THE ONE BEARING A TALE -WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE WOMAN WHO IS STIRRING UP STRIFE-SHAME ON HER AND I HAVE HAD DOUG LITERALLY GO TO BAT TO SAVE MY LIFE-MAY THE LORD GOD OF HEAVEN REBUKE HER AS I AM ASTONISHED THAT YOU QUOTE THE SCRIPTURE BUT DONT EVEN APPLY THE BASICS TO OBEYING THE SCRIPTURE IN YOUR LIFE AS IT APPLIES TO YOUR SITUATION-

According to Hagmann’s very specific voluntary statement/affidavit, the NSA didn’t target his web browser or Steve Quayle’s (easily captured using a basic screen saver program). Instead Hagmann, claimed he had witnessed the NSA on his caller id after he hung up the phone with Steve Quayle. Doug Hagmann had also claimed after hearing a ring-back, he picked up the phone and heard a recording from the Utah NSA Data Recording Center. He was alone at the time.

In addition there is no mention in Hagmann’s account of anyone else seeing anything or that he received a confirmation from Quayle—which would have provided proof that the allegation was true.

They can’t keep their stories straight.

Read: Hagmann’s NSA allegation in his voluntary statement/ affidavit in How Extensive is the NSA Domestic Surveillance of U.S. Media? Is it legal? and at CFP here.

On May 30, Hagmann, a U.S. citizens, after having a phone conversation with another internationally known media type, also a U.S. citizen, regarding various government activities, who were both in the U.S. at the time, upon ending their conversation and hanging up, Hagmann received a strange ringed phone call. “Curious because of the ring tone, he looked at the caller ID displayed and was startled to see the following on the telephone caller ID screen: “UT NSA DATA REC CTR.”” He picked up the receiver and heard the following message in a male voice:

“…your notification that the Utah NSA Data Recording Center successfully captured this landline communication under file # [I was unable to copy the numbers as they were spoken quickly]. Refer to senior duty officer for access code under file #[this appeared to be a different alpha-numeric sequence].”

Also review Hagmann talking about his NSA allegation

Note the specificity in Doug Hagmann’s version of what happened when he was supposedly targeted by the NSA—hung up the phone, caller id, ring-back, recording, …. There is no, I repeat no mention that the NSA “showed up on his web browser” or Steve Quayle’s or anyone else’s.

Again, Steve Quayle’s version so we are 100% clear: “AND I TRUST DOUG AS I WAS ON THE PHONE THE DAY THE NSA SHOWED UP ON HIS WEB BROWSER AND EVEN SENT HIM THE SAME THING THAT SHOWED UP ON MINE.”

Next, it is critical to point out that in a direct email exchange with me and Steve Quayle that happened days later on October 29, 2014, Steve Quayle did not acknowledge that he was supposedly the other person on the phone at the time of Doug Hagmann’s alleged NSA incident—according to Doug Hagmann’s version or his own Google web browser version.

Steve Quayle’s email to me was initiated by another person’s email, who cc’s other people. You’d think he might have mentioned something about his involvement considering I knew all of Hagmann’s alleged details.

If anyone could have debunked what I had reported, Steve Quayle should have been a leading candidate.

Instead, Steve Quayle accused me of pushing Doug Hagmann into filing FOIAs. He also lectured, attacked and berated me using Bible Scripture.

It’s a pattern and technique I’ve seen before that is used essentially to intimidate and bully people.

Review:

Text: The first email Steve Quayle sent me, dated October 29:

YOU ARE SOWING DISCORD AND YOU STILL HAVENT APPROACHED THIS BIBLICALLY MATTHEW 18– IS YOUR INSTRUCTION MANUAL-YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER AND SLANDEROUS-LOOK UP THE SEVEN THINGS GOD HATES-YOU WHO SEW DISCORD AMONGST THE BRETHREN-YOU ARE IN THE FLESH AND GUILTY OF ENVY,STRIFE AND BITTERNESS-YOU ARE THE ONE WHO PUSHED HIM TO DO FOIA FROM THE NSA AND TOTALLY IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT THE NSA WONT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE FILES LET ALONE RELEASE THEM-I HAVE NEVER SEEN DOUG TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST ANYONE LET ALONE INNOCENT PEOPLE-YOU ARE OF THE WRONG SPIRIT PERIOD!

In addition, Steve Quayle did not request that I correct anything I had written, but he did ask me to: “STOP THIS WAR NOW.”

I don’t know what war he is talking about. I’m an investigative journalist correcting my reporting which is what journalists should do if they are honest, in the terrible event that they were exploited to report a story that they could no longer stand by.

Moreover, I did not name Steve Quayle in my NSA correction piece, in part, because I had no reason to believe he was involved with Doug Hagmann’s threat against me. He inserted himself when he emailed and attacked me.

Ironically, Steve Quayle also accused me of slander with no proof.

Note: Before Steve Quayle emailed me, I had been told that some of these self-professed Christian truth-tellers in their alternative media circles were saying not-so nice things about me and my character such as: I was from the devil or was a Jezebel spirit and so forth.

Quayle’s email to me also confirmed the character assassination attempts against me were true.

I confess. I am tired of these self-professed Christian truth-tellers not telling the truth or apologizing—threatening and now attacking and defaming me.

That’s when I called Steve Quayle out.

I asked him why he was lying, defaming and attacking me. He denied doing any of that when I knew otherwise and could prove it.
Review:

Steve Quayle’s email to me, dated November 5:

Subject: Re: Why have you decided to have a public spat with Doug Hagmann instead of h…
I HAVE EMAILED NO ONE EXCEPT YOU UNLESS MY RESPONSE WENT TO YOUR HEADER LIST-STOP THIS WAR NOW-

On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:19 PM, Marinkapm@aol.com wrote:

Really Steve? It is me who has not acted biblically and like a decent, honest person would act? Don’t you think it is time for Doug to act biblically? Are you going to make up for all the damage he has caused me and other people by his threats and lies and get him to also apologize to everyone?

What a dramatic switch in you? You are giving me whip lash. I am very aware of the lies you have been spreading about me as well as emailing other people. Was that biblical too?

Marinka

To stop Steve Quayle’s appalling duplicity, I made an over-the-top bet with him that I could prove he was lying and defaming me. I had his email proof. Steve Quayle did not take my bet.

As I wrote in an email to him, “Lying and trying to defame me is not so easy, is it Steve, when there are consequences? Of course you didn’t take the bet. How could you because you know you would lose. If you were a Christian truth-teller and so honest, and I am so terrible with the “wrong spirit” and “sowing strife” you would have jumped at that bet… Also I did not slander anyone. My reporting is documented. Show me where.”

As of this writing, Steve Quayle has not produced any evidence of where I slandered anyone.

Making bets is an effective way to stop people from lying. They start singing a different tune when there is money on the line. Right Wayne? Granted the bet I made with Quayle was ridiculously high –$25K (I usually make much smaller bets), I was making a point. Stop the BS.

While I am not a big gambler, I started making bets and issuing monetary fines, like late penalties, years ago to make publishing deadlines during my first book project— that Hollywood memoir.

The notorious and legendary producer, who was also busted for cocaine in the 1980’s, and implicated in murder during the making of The Cotton Club that had mob funding, also liked to gamble. Evans pays his bets when he loses.

Making bets with Evans played a role in completing his memoir on time. I only bet when I know I’m going to win. It also speaks volumes to a person’s character if they lose and don’t pay up.

Now let’s address Steve Quayle’s statements about FOIA.

Quayle email to me: “YOU ARE THE ONE WHO PUSHED HIM TO DO FOIA FROM THE NSA AND TOTALLY IGNORANT OF THE FACT THAT THE NSA WONT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE FILES LET ALONE RELEASE THEM.”

Quayle email that was forwarded to me: “IT WAS NOT A LIE IT WAS HIS FOIA REQUEST NUMBER WHICH ONLY THE MOST NAIVE PERSON WOULD EVER BELIEVE THAT THE NSA WOULD TURN OVER HIS FILE NUMBER LET ALONE THE CONTENTS.”

As I documented here it was my NSA FOIA case #70900, not Doug Hagmann’s. There is a big difference. Anyone can get a NSA FOIA number if they file a FOIA.

It does not prove that Doug Hagmann was targeted by the NSA to find his sources.

It appears that Steve Quayle is a different type of “journalist” than I am. I am old-school and the type who is sourcing and documenting.

Quayle’s type of “journalism” appears to be a pattern of what I’ve been seeing in the alternative media, called “fear porn,” used on audiences to gin up donations or perhaps worse, provoke violence. There is more than enough bad things going on in the world, there is no need to make anything up.

As for pushing FOIAs on Doug Hagmann, I didn’t push him; I asked him if he knew how to file them. He did not which was surprising since apparently he’s a 30+ year private investigator. Then I offered to file them for him because I file a lot of FOIAs and he was busy.

Filing FOIAs is a crucial step to take if you actually want to try to get actionable evidence of government abuses. I also showed him how to personally file them himself (separate from me) as you can see in this example below with the DHS. This way there would be two FOIA tracks going. I wrote him this: “You might want to…” Pushy?

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An email from me to Hagmann dated June 13, 2013. Judi McLeod is cc’d.

Subject: Fwd: DHS FOIA Request

Doug,
For your records. I sent a FOIA for you to DHS as well. Any other bases to cover?
You might want to file one under the Privacy Act with DHS as well. Here’s the link. – M
http://www.dhs.gov/how-submit-foia-or-privacy-act-request-department-homeland-security#6

To my knowledge Doug Hagmann did not personally file FOIAs to get evidence of his NSA targeting allegation. Had he done so, he would have had updates to report and talk about by now.

Ironically, neither has Steve Quayle, who has claimed that he was also targeted by the NSA on his web browser. To my knowledge, he did not have a computer expert check out his computer either.

Wouldn’t you try everything possible to get evidence if you were targeted by the NSA? I would.

Former CBS news correspondent Sharyl Attkisson did, and wrote a book reporting her tangible efforts, “Stonewalled: My Fight for Truth Against the Forces of Obstruction, Intimidation, and Harassment in Obama’s Washington.” I haven’t finished her book but I’ve read how she had computer experts check her computers and they found evidence. That’s what investigative journalist do.

Review: Here is another email from me to Doug Hagmann dated July 9, 2013, regarding getting additional information from him for the FBI to try to obtain evidence of his NSA allegation. Judi McLeod is cc’d.

Doug Hagmann never called me back. Phone records will confirm this.

Subject: Pls. call. FBI FOIA

Hi Doug,

Just got a response back from FBI FOIA. It hasn’t been processed yet, they are denying my request for expedited processing which I will appeal.

Please give me a call when you can so I can fill you in and see if you have info to add. I tried the number I have for you but it just rang and rang.

Freedom of Information Act
As for a person being naïve or ignorant to believe I could have obtained documentation from FOIA, Steve Quayle neglected to acknowledge that I filed FOIAs at several agencies—NSA, Federal Bureau of Investigations, Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and the Central Intelligence Agency. Also, you don’t know if you don’t try.

Is Steve Quayle saying that people like Larry Klayman and groups like Judicial Watch, Electronic Frontier Foundation, and other journalists like me– thanks in large part to FOIA, who are doing our best to inform the public and expose malfeasance in government via FOIA are ignorant and naïve too or it is just me? Let’s be clear now.

Below are several recent examples that show how valuable FOIA can be despite what Steve Quayle says.

Review:
Peschmann: Memo to Chairman Gowdy Select committee: Two military aircraft in full mission capable status on September 11, 2012. Never activated—Benghazi FOIA Exclusive
Peschmann: Exclusive Benghazi FOIA Request: Hours after the attack … “Cleared hot on the email”
IPT Exclusive: Records Prove Muslim Brotherhood Delegates Skipped Airport Inspections
Judicial Watch FOIAs: FBI Knowing Allowed Bin Laden Family To Personally Charter Flight after 9/11 (when everyone else was grounded)
Uncovered by Judicial Watch: Top Pentagon Leader Ordered Destruction of bin Laden Death Photos
Judicial Watch Gets Docs: State Dept. Ordered Benghazi Security Co. to Dodge Media
Judicial Watch on the NSA
Politico: Judge orders Obama foreign aid order released (thanks to a FOIA lawsuit)
Mail Online: $2m witness payment, bogus forensic evidence and Pentagon memo blaming Iran: How Lockerbie bomber appeal threatened Scottish justice.
Rob Ford Staffer Emails Show Gawker Editor’s First Contact (Toronto’s former “crack” mayor)
Electronic Frontier Foundation: Transparency Project where one of the “major tools” they use is the Freedom of Information Act
Updated: NSA releases surveillance docs on Christmas eve (Thanks to a FOIA lawsuit).


Note: Our email exchanges also included Doug Hagmann and W’s bizarre relationship. I included that on purpose because I was told that Steve Quayle is at odds with Wayne for reasons that happened before my NSA correction article was published.

Wayne spent the last year trying to get me to forget about Doug Hagmann’s threat and the NSA allegation they asked me to report. In the Clinton’s world, that is called damage control.

You bet I would like to know more about that and what their motivations are/were.

Thankfully, I have great readers who tip me off on what this group is up to. I also get daily email alerts. Wouldn’t you if you were me and were threatened for reporting a story they asked you to report?

More on Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider—“W”

As I wrote in my first NSA correction piece, Wayne, who was previously concealed in the shadows, outted himself. He broke his silence shortly after Hagmann threatened me, covering up for Hagmann, apparently trying to legitimize him. As previously documented, Wayne was Hagmann’s NSA allegation confirming source.

As Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider, Wayne gave him an interview at Canada Free Press, and appeared on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report, first as “the professor,” then as “W.” Listen here. It was shocking.

It was especially shocking considering Wayne had claimed that the NSA had been looking to find him–as also evidenced in Hagmann’s “voluntary statement.”

Who needs the NSA when all it took for “W” to expose himself was for Hagmann to threaten me with legal action for trying to get evidence of THEIR NSA targeting allegation.

Obviously this is not how a person with Wayne’s supposed background would act. What was really going on here? Incredibly, Hagmann (and others) describe “W,” as if he was the real life James Bond to their trusting audiences.

You do not have to be an investigative journalist to know that something was wrong.

Why would Wayne destroy his anonymity by exposing himself publicly like that? He compromised himself. Hagmann’s credibility was rightfully under fire, he did not only threaten me with legal action, right Wayne? AND nobody that well-connected, super spook-like, decent and ethical, as the Intelligence Insider, “W,” was portrayed to be, would have fastened their wagon to and gone public with Doug Hagmann after Doug Hagmann threatened me or anyone else. Right?

It was mindblowing when Wayne went on to became such a regular fixture on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report that some people suggested he get his own show.

I remember when I was outted in the Washington Post after that Clinton impeachment thing. Never one for the spotlight, I’ve always preferred to work in the background on other people’s books or investigations and stories. That’s why I don’t “out” people, but when people out themselves, they are fair game.

Wayne, did not only expose himself publicly with Hagmann, he was exposed here: Wayne Willott misses out on Powerball prize. No big payout coming for Seattle resident, on BlackNET Intelligence Channel (thanks to a reader), and elsewhere. Listen to Wayne Willott with Steve Quayle pushing the Cliven Bundy standoff in Nevada (calls in during hour three) and the mutual love fest.

Of course there is something else going on and Wayne Willott, so-called Christian good guy, man of integrity, is not who he claims to be.

Meanwhile Wayne Willott tries to feed other journalists info. Beware.

If he can do this to me, he can do it to them.

Note to my media colleagues: While not all of Wayne Willott’s background info has been bad, obviously some of it is. If you require additional documentation, reach out to me. False allegations are unconscionable.

Also review Hagmann’s CFP archives Note the number of articles Hagmann has done with his “intelligence Insider,” “W,” Wayne Willott, in the archives in the headline or in the content before and after Hagmann threatened me with legal action. Listeners know all the topics he feeds to Hagmann (including Benghazi, occult, secret societies, Russia, NWO, Christianity, silver code/economy) No super sleuthing required.

It’s worth mentioning that shortly before I wrote the NSA correction piece, Wayne Willott tried to get me to work with him on a magazine project with another person.

Once again I gave Wayne Willott the opportunity to come clean and make things right. He did not. I turned his job offer down.

Review: One of the email exchanges about Wayne Willott—Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider’s project. I’ve blocked out the other person who was also involved.

Motives? The love of money and fame or something else?

Could money and a media platform be playing a factor in this or is there something more nefarious at play? It is easy to see that the more fear that is generated, more money and donations come in.

Why have I’ve also been told about “contain and id?” What’s that all about?

While I can’t report with certainty what their motivations are, Steve Quayle has fundraised for Doug Hagmann, and apparently has some personal financial interests in the radio show too. Quayle also appears as a frequent guest with his friends. The show archives confirm this.

Review: A Request to Stand By Doug Hagmann Financially “Thank you” So Much Steve.

Below is the text. I have saved screensaver shots.

A REQUEST TO STAND BY DOUG HAGMANN FINANCIALLY’ THANK YOU’ SO MUCH-STEVE

JUDGING BY THE AMOUNT OF E-MAILS WE RECEIVE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD, I WOULD SAY THAT HIS RADIO SHOW IS BEING USED MIGHTILY BY THE LIVING GOD! THOUSANDS ARE RETURNING FROM THEIR BACKSLIDDEN STATE AND THEIR HEARTS ARE RETURNING TO JESUS.SO MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE SAVING KNOWLEDGE OF JESUS THROUGH THE VARIOUS BROADCASTS WITH DAVID LANKFORD,V,MYSELF AND THE OTHER GUESTS THAT ONE CAN ONLY CONCLUDE THAT GOD IS SENDING HIS MINISTERING ANGELS INTO THE HIGHWAYS AND BY WAYS OF TH 4 CORNERS OF THE EARTH AND WELCOMING HIS GREAT END TIME HARVEST, AS HE GRANTS THE SPIRIT OF REPENTANCE TO AS MANY AS WILL HEAR HIS VOICE.I AM ASKING FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT GO TO CHURCH AND ARE BEING FED AND BLESSED, WHO KNOW THE BLESSING OF TITHING TO SUPPORT HIM FINANCIALLY.THE STOREHOUSE IS THE PLACE WHERE THE PROVISION OF GOD IS FREELY DISPERSED AMONG ALL THOSE THAT HUNGER AND THIRST.WHO ELSE IS GIVING YOU THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE GAINED ABOUT WORLD EVENTS,FINANCIAL ADVICE AND BIBLE TEACHING THAT THE HAGMANN AND HAGMANN SHOW PROVIDES.DOUG IS NOT ASKING ME TO DO THIS BUT THIS MORNING I FELT ‘PROMPTED’ OF THE LORD TO CALL HIM AND ASK HIM-I ALREADY NEW THE ANSWER BUT HE CONFIRMED THAT VERY FEW ARE SUPPORTING HIM.MOST OF YOU CANT EVEN FATHOM THE PRICE HE PAYS TO DO WHAT HE HAS DONE.YOU HAVE HEARD ME PRAY FOR YOU TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND HEARD DAVID LANKFORD PREACH WITH POWER,AUTHORITY AND SURRENDER SO PLEASE WHERE WILL YOU GO IF THERE IS NO MORE SHOW.SOME OF YOU WITH HUGE BANK ACCOUNTS ARE SAVED BUT YOU HAVE NEVER LEARNED THE GRACE GIFT OF GIVING-THIS IS TRAJIC-IF SOMEONE NEVER STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE THERE WOULD NEVER BE A HOME RUN HIT-WE ARE ASKING FOR YOU TO FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THE SHOW WHILE THERE STILL IS A SHOW-NO FINANCIAL SUPPORT =NO SHOW -THERE IS A DONATE BUTTON ON HIS SITE( www.homeland securityus.com) ALONG WITH HIS MAILING ADDRESS –PLEASE LEARN THE JOY OF SOWING INTO AN EFFECTIVE AND LIFE CHANGING MINISTRY-STEVE
Jun 5, 2013

First look at the date. Was it a coincidence that Steve Quayle’s financial request for Doug Hagmann’s “ministry” happened one-day (June 5, 2013) after I reported their NSA targeting allegation they asked me to report (June 4, 2013)?

Why was it looking more and more like I was set up?

I did not know about Steve Quayle’s fundraiser. Judi McLeod had told me about it after Steve Quayle posted this on his website ten days after (June 14, 2013) I was asked to report Hagmann’s NSA targeting allegation.

Review: Below is the text

EMERGENCY PRAYER REQUEST FOR DOUG HAGMANNN-LIFE IS IN SEVERE DANGER

DOUG WAS ALMOST KILLED THIS MORNING UNDER THE GOON SQUAD–HE NEEDS DIVINE INTERVENTION AND PROTECTION IMMEDIATELY AND PRAY FOR GODS SUPERNATURAL DELIVERANCE IN HIS LIFE-I CAN NOT TELL YOU HOW IMPORTANT YOUR PRAYERS ARE AT THIS TIME-W-AND ROSEBUD HEADS UP!
Jun 14, 2013

What the… ? What had Judi McLeod gotten me into with these self-professed Christian truth-tellers in the alternative media? Apparently Quayle’s “emergency prayer request” was really over a family problem. Worried about Canada Free Press’ credibility, this is when McLeod first told me about her serious credibility issues she had with Hagmann documented in my NSA correction piece.

Let’s wrap this up

Since I wrote my NSA correction article, I’ve heard from Hagmann’s Intelligence Insider, “W,” Wayne Willott via email a few times. Usually it’s the typical emails he “bcc’s” not just to me but other people like Doug Hagmann with links to articles. Hagmann uses them for his radio shows.

Ironically, in one of his emails to me, he pointed out an error—not in my NSA correction piece, but in my latest Benghazi story which I corrected as you can see here. Scroll to the end.

I’ve had zero contact from Judi McLeod for her role in this for over a year.

Same goes for Doug Hagmann.

Look-a reader sent me this:

Doug Hagmann breaks his silence on his NSA targeting allegation

Now that you’ve seen some more of the evidence in this report and in my initial NSA correction story, let’s compare what Doug Hagmann has done to get evidence of his NSA allegation with Sharyl Attkisson. He spoke about Attkisson on his November 11, 2014 radio broadcast in conjunction with his NSA allegation and journalists being intimidated and targeted (video below).

As I previously mentioned, Attkisson wrote a book, Stonewalled: My Fight for Truth Against the Forces of Obstruction, Intimidation, and Harassment in Obama’s Washington. Her book includes the measurable steps she took to obtain actionable evidence. Computer forensics, Skype, the works.

That’s what investigative journalists and anyone should do if they have been targeted by the government.

Now listen to Doug Hagmann talk about his NSA targeting allegation —over a year after it allegedly happened in the summer of 2014.

Update: Transcription added. Full broadcast: Thursday July 10, 2014, The Hagmann and Hagmann Report. Start listening at 117:40.

Joe Hagmann: Yeah, we are going to take a top of the hour break—

Doug Hagmann: Wait, wait, wait! A message from National Security Agency Subject Number 70900. Folks, feel free— because July, in fact. I meant to bring this up yesterday.

It was exactly one year ago yesterday that I published an article called, “A Message from National Security Agency Subject 70900,” that’s MY number at the NSA, that’s MY case number, case file number. And if you recall, I had an incident happen where the phone call, when I was on the phone with a journalist, a very well known person –

Joe Hagmann: A covered or what do they call it? A cover journalist or a real journalist or a basement blogger?

Doug Hagmann: Ah, not a basement blogger. Somebody—you would, somebody whose name if I would state the name would certainly— people would know the name. But none the less, when I went to hang up the phone, there was a ring back. You know how you can hang up the phone and you can get a ring-back, I thought it was a ring-back from the call, and I looked down and I saw the caller id with NSA Utah Data Collection Center caller id on the, on my office phone. I could not believe what I saw and of course. You know, that went away quickly. But I did a year ago yesterday I reported about that so. You can feel free to refer to me as NSA file number or NSA case number 70900. Seventy nine hundred so.

Again, my NSA FOIA case #70900 does not prove he was targeted by the NSA to find his sources—one of whom since then outted himself—“W”—Wayne Willott. Anybody can get a NSA FOIA number.

Now listen to Doug Hagmann on his November 11, 2014 radio show–since I corrected his false NSA allegation

Transcription of clip (added May 2015)

Doug Hagmann: Ultimately who ordered the Federal Agents to go after Miss Attkinsson? We will be working to have Ms. Attkisson come on our program. We know that she does media shows and we, I, would like to talk to her. Now, certainly if it was Obama, and that is grounds for impeachment, according to Michael Synder, the fact of the matter is, I can tell you this from experience you will not find, you will not find, anything that will be attributed to, directly to Obama, at least in my view, that’s my personal opinion. I’ve been doing this long enough to know how the game works.

Meanwhile others, and I am going to put this in here right now. Okay, remember I said about proprietary to a government agency? I said this, “after an exhaustive examination of one her computers found that it had been hacked by a sophisticated entity that used non commercial non attributable spyware that is proprietary to government agency in the CIA, FBI, DIA or NSA.”

Folks, I am going to make this one statement and this one statement only. And I am going to say it right now. Last year, I had, I had, I was the subject of an NSA targeting type of an event, an harassment, I filed a – I actually swore out an affidavit. I swore to it under oath before a notary, and in fact before a municipal court judge outlining exactly what happened to me in my office on a certain date 2013 where the NSA had shown up on my telephone. In other words, subsequent to a conversation with an investigative reporter [Steve Quayle is now an investigative journalist? Since when?], and I’m not going to name that investigative reporter, the NSA, Utah Data center showed up on my caller id.

I had a ringback from that showing that and of course, you know. Look. I got a message as well that, that essentially that was directed I suspect to, or intended for someone else.

There is a lot of crap, a lot of BS being attempted right now about my situation. And quite frankly it, it’s almost like a serial stalking situation by a person is who I believe personally I believe is mentally unstable and that is all I’m going to say, except to say folks, believe only half of what you read er, half of what you read on the internet, perhaps maybe none of it.

Joe Hagmann: Or only half.

Doug Hagmann: Ha, but that’s all I’m going to say about that. Let’s continue with Ms. Attikisson. I can relate to this. Let’s continue with Michael Synder’s article.

Entire BlogTalkRadio broadcast. Start listening around 24 minutes.

Apparently Doug Hagmann’s evidence is a sworn affidavit. He claimed he took an oath under the penalty of perjury before a notary and a municipal judge.

Notice how Doug Hagmann did not say anything he has done (or is doing) to obtain evidence either. Since he is apparently a 30+ year private investigator, a self described investigative journalist and a Christian truth-teller, this appears to be highly unusual.

Not even an update from his Congressman? What about the FISA courts? Nothing? Zip.

FYI: Typically people with degrees in medicine or psychiatry, who have conducted series of psychological tests on a person in a clinical setting, are qualified to access a person’s mental stability. These doctors who hold such qualifications also examine the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual for mental Disorders, Fifth Edition. Anyone who does otherwise is practicing medicine without a license.

To make an accusation against one’s character without factual evidence is “slander.”

Furthermore, what has “award winning journalist,” McLeod done–who asked me to report Hagmann/Wayne’s NSA targeting allegation, considering this would affect Canada Free Press as well? Apparently nothing either. Even CBS (oh my, the mainstream press) had a computer forensic analysis done on Sharyl Attkisson’s computer.

Now WATCH Sharyl Attkisson talk about the steps she took to obtain forensic evidence when she was targeted in this interview with MSNBC. No one can claim that this was a sympathetic interview.

In well over a year, to my knowledge, there has been no word or updates from Hagmann or McLeod on any of this:

-The Congressmen and representatives Hagmann was supposedly contacting.
-The telephone company investigation Hagmann was supposedly doing.
-The FISA courts
-Hagmann and Quayle did not file FOIAs. Had they, they would have had updates for his listeners and readers a long time ago.
-Hagmann has not produced the affidavit that was allegedly sworn under oath before a notary and a municipal judge. Sworn affidavits are actionable.

What we do know:
-Hagmann (with McLeod’s blessing) threatened me with legal action for trying to obtain actionable evidence of his NSA targeting allegation and rescinded his FOIA permission.
-Hagmann and Quayle can’t get their NSA targeting allegation stories straight.
– Quayle attacked me.
-Hagmann cited my NSA FOIA case #70900 as proof. It does not confirm he was targeted by the NSA.
-Hagmann’s Insider Intelligence source,”W,” Wayne Willott publicly outted himself on Hagmann’s radio show and elsewhere after Hagmann threatened me.
-Judi McLeod still publishes Hagmann

Review:

Making a false allegation is a serious offense. Innocent people get hurt.

Must listen: In this broadcast dated 6-13-2013 Hagmann goes into great detail again on his NSA targeting allegation shortly after he claimed it happened.

Start listening around the 9:00 minute mark on BlogTalkRadio. Hagmann emphatically claimed that the NSA had active surveillance on his telephone-an information file had been created on him. He also claimed that someone in the Obama administration either had to go to a FISA court and convince a judge that he was a threat to the United States or somebody in the administration circumvented the legal system. If it was the former, Hagmann claimed that person would need the approval not far from “presidential approval”–at least at the level of Attorney General Eric Holder. Keep listening. There is much more.

As always, if anyone sees something that needs to be corrected in my reporting, please let me know. I have no problem making corrections. Thanks.

Again, my deepest apologies if anyone has been hurt by this.

Thank you for your valuable time.

Update November 20: So what did these Christian truth tellers do when they apparently learned about my second documented report? Told the truth and apologized? Nope. Blame hell’s messengers, it’s fundraising time!

Review: From Steve Quayle’s website:

PLEASE CONSIDER STANDING WITH DOUG HAGMANN FINANCIALLY, AS HE HAS BLESSED US ALL WITH HIS RADIO PROGRAM

BRETHREN:IF YOU LISTEN TO DOUG’S SHOW FOR TIMELY AND PERTINENT INFO THEN YOU KNOW ,DOUG HAS TAKEN HIS STAND FOR THE LORD AND FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS SAKE- WITH SO MANY PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE TO FIND FELLOWSHIP AND CERTAINLY UNABLE TO FIND LIKE MINDED INDIVIDUALS LOCALLY WHO EVEN CARE TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON,DOUG’S SHOW PROVIDES US A REGULAR MEETING PLACE ,.I BELIEVE IN TITHES AND OFFERING S AND WOULD ASK THAT ONCE AGAIN YOU SUPPORT HIS EFFORTS-THE STOREHOUSE IS WHERE YOU GET FED ! DOUG HAS NEVER ONCE ASKED ME TO MENTION HIS FINANCIAL SUPPORT NEEDS YET ,I CAN SENSE IT WHEN HIS FUNDS RUN LOW AND THIS MORNING IT WAS CONFIRMED-FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO BELIEVE IN TITHES AND OFFERINGS BUT HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO TITHE AS YOUR NOT IN FELLOWSHIP PLEASE CONSIDER THIS REQUEST -PLEASE SEND YOUR SUPPORT TODAY-THE CONSTANT FRUSTRATION OF COMPUTER ATTACKS,BROADCAST INTERRUPTIONS AND HELL’S MESSENGERS CAN GET ANY ONE DOWN-WE HAVE SO LITTLE TIME LEFT ALL ALL HELL IS BREAKING LOOSE –PLEASE HELP HIM TODAY-,AS YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT GUEST OR STATEMENT WILL HELP YOUR UNBELIEVING SPOUSE OR FRIENDS TO GET IT! THANK YOU,STEVE

Hagmann Investigative Services, inc.

P.O. Box 9534
Erie, PA 16505
Nov 19, 2014

As an astute reader noted, “He’s begging for money for himself. No shame.”

While I am not a bible expert, profess to be a ministry, and we all need to pay our bills (including me), I do know that using God as a fund raising tool is not pleasing to the Lord. Some would say that is blasphemous. It is a blessing to be able to give—if the person wants to but no one should be shamed into it.

God does not send out beggars or scare people into buying stuff.

Please share this article. Let others see the evidence. Too many people have already been hurt and taken advantage of. I’ve also added images I should have included in the original report. Thank you.

FYI: Look Judicial Watch did it again thanks to FOIA. DOJ Press Aide Talked About Stopping ‘Out of Control’ Attkisson in Email. It is worth mentioning that I know the status of the FOIAs I filed when Hagmann threatened me with legal action …

Related: There is a disturbing pattern to Hagmann and Quayle’s threatening and intimidating behavior towards people who dare to speak the truth. Read Steve Quayle: God Complex and Veiled Threats by Michael Erevna.

Update January 5, 2015: FOIA works.
Sharyl Attkisson sues administration over computer hacking
“Attkisson learned through a Freedom of Information request that the FBI opened an investigation of the hacking case in May 2013, but says the bureau never interviewed her or even notified her of the probe.”

As Attkisson’s case proves, you can get actionable documentation back from FOIA.

When Hagmann threatened me with legal action, I had also filed a FOIA with the FBI … not all FOIA offices are backed up.

It is also worth pointing out here how Steve Quayle tried to defame me by essentially saying that I was an ignorant idiot and a fool for thinking I would get anything actionable back from FOIA. Care to comment or apologize, Steve?

Now you know why Hagmann threatened me with legal action and why McLeod, and Quayle protect and continue to protect him–it looks like they were protecting themselves as well.

January 5, 2015 Update #2: I have received emails from people who have told me that they are being ignored, censored and/or blocked when they try to ask any of the people involved in Hagmann’s false NSA allegation about my correction articles.

Please know. You are not alone.

People are also being censored when they try to leave comments about it on other websites as well. Anyone in the so-called “alternative/truther” media who is blocking or censoring you is dishonest and sanctions threats and false allegations. You either tell the truth all of the time or you don’t.

The masks are coming off. There is nothing truthful about that kind of conduct.

Remember with this crew of self described Christian truth-tellers/journalists/private investigators/intelligence insiders, it is only bad when the Obama administration intimidates or threatens journalists but when they do it –it is okay.

It is also only bad when the Obama administration tries to silence and censor people but when they do it–it is okay.

Got it?

It’s been almost three months since I first corrected Hagmann’s NSA allegation. On my end, no one has apologized to me or tried to make amends. No one has provided me with proof that contradicts anything I have reported and required a retraction.

No one has provided me with a statement I would publish in full explaining their “side of the story.”

No one has hit me with a slander or defamation suit either. If that happened, I’d just report it and have a field day in discovery.

Hagmann has still not produced his alleged sworn affidavit. He claimed he took an oath under the penalty of perjury before a notary and a municipal judge.

And to the best of my knowledge, no one has apologized and corrected themselves with their respective audiences either. There are no words.

***Important update!***

Updated: This photograph of the Hagmann and Hagmann Report Radio Show app sign-up form below was sent to me by one of Hagmann’s listeners (if you want credit, please tell me. As always, thank you).

Look at the depth, extent and scope of the personal information and private access they want from you to listen to their show. Who is spying on you now?

According to the Hagmann and Hagmann Report App sign-up form, you must provide them with:

-Identity: find accounts on the devise
-Location: approximate location (network based), precise location (GPS and network based)
-SMS: Send SMS messages
-Phone: directly call phone numbers
-Photos/Media/Files: read the contents of your USB storage, and modify or delete the contents of your USB storage.
-Camera/ Microphone: take pictures and video and record audio
-Wi-Fi connection information: view Wi-Fi connections
-Devise ID & call information: read phone status and identity
-Other: use accounts on this devise, full network access, control vibration, view network connections

Review

Excuse me, talk about a shocking, alarming and deliberate invasion of privacy. Why on earth would a so-called Christian truth-telling radio show in the alternative media be gathering and collecting your personal information, which also gives them access to your friends and family’s information just to listen to their radio show?

While condemning the NSA for spying on you, why does the Hagmann and Hagmann Report want real-time access to your private life via this app? Again, who is spying on you now?

Nobody needs this amount of information and access. Nobody. The hypocrisy is staggering, chilling. The H&H Report app makes the IRS and NSA look tame.

A question that must be asked and answered is what are Doug and Joe Hagmann doing with your personal information?

Who are they sharing it with?

It is not just me who noticed this shocking, personally violating hypocrisy. Some savvy listeners noticed something is not right here too. Indeed. One reviewer quickly, wisely uninstalled the app, so the Hagmanns and crew can’t play dumb.

Months ago that person wrote this: “My camera, mic, texts & location…really?! You guys have a large conspiratorial following and you need my location, contacts, text messages, microphone and camera…just to listen to your show.. Uninstalling now. Never again. Sure I’ll just TRUST you not bug or track me..with permissions you don’t need. I just wanted to hear your show… Makes me question your intent…keep it simple. Update: Since posting your have added even more requirements.. 10/24..”

Another wrote this: “Too many permissions, too many ads. Sorry but have you actually tried to use your own app? It’s almost impossible. And all those permissions! For a show about NWO and spy tech you seem really interested in my personal info.”

I predict if Doug Hagmann is called out on this outrageous data collection and invasion of privacy, he will play dumb and claim he is not tech savvy. Don’t buy it. This is HIS show app, an app his son approved and praised as well. Doug Hagmann claims he is a 30-year private investigator who has specialized in surveillance including gas lighting.

These legitimate reviewer concerns have been posted for months (I have screen shots if they are scrubbed).

Why do so-called Christian truth-teller media personalities in the alternative press want your personal information and access to your private lives? Why?

Why does the Hagmann and Hagmann Report want real-time access to your phones, hard-drives, cameras, audio etc? Why?

Paypal asks for much less of your personal information to transfer funds to and from financial institutions. Much less.

When you hit power on a radio nobody needs your private information or access to your life. Nobody.

Remember if the NSA collects data on you it is bad, but when the Hagmann and Hagmann Report app invades your privacy, collects your personal information and gets access to your life, it is good.

You have been warned.

The Hagmann and Hagmann Report is broadcast on BlogTalkRadio. BlogTalkRadio, “the largest social radio network in the world,” was originally founded by Alan Levy and Bob Charish in August 2006. Levy is also the President and CEO of Cinchcast where Charish is Cinchcast’s co-founder and Chief Operating Officer.

A purported Christian radio “ministry,” radio “ministry,” The Hagmann and Hagmann Report is also is simulcast on the Christian’s United Broadcasting Network. Apparently it is also carried on other stations not just in the US, but internationally.

Note: This update has been expanded.

Update: See: Poison Fruits: “Christian” alternative media stars Steve Quayle and Doug Hagmann’s SWAT allegation also fake.



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  • Wendy

    I have been listening to this group for about three years. I became so scared that I lost 30 pounds and finally just broke down to the point that I had to seek treatment. I actually came to the place that I wanted the sky to hurry up and fall just to stop the agony.

    Thankfully, I am much better and learned a great deal from this experience.

    I don’t listen any more and I find that he fear approach was not of the Lord. How many times does the Bible say “Fear Not” or “Do not be afraid? I looked that up and the answer combined is approximately 110 times depending. In Revelation 21:8 it states the “fearful” “shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death”, So what are these guys doing? Why would they do that? I want an answer? Are they doing this on purpose and why? That is pretty awful if they are. I wouldn’t wish what I went threw on my worst enemy.

    I was also very interested the the terms “Contain and ID” Just what does that mean? My guess is that this is where they keep you busy, distracted and fearful while they collect your information. Is that correct? I wound’t do that to my worse enemy either.

    Well, Miss Peschmann, thank you for your insightful and well documented article and I hope these guys take a different path very soon. I pray God shows them that what they are doing is actually hurting people.

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  • Thanks again so much. Unfortunately, it took me longer than I hoped it would to be able to nail down that the NSA allegation McLeod, Wayne and Hagmann asked me to report was false. But when I got the proof I reported it and corrected myself. Did you see my part 2 on this? Qualye handed me even more incontrovertible proof. Eventually people like this overplay their hand. Please tell me more about the homeowners. Feel free to email me directly if you prefer. It’s at my contact page at the top under “About.” Indeed. You will know Christians by their deeds, not their words. Anyone can put on a good show….

  • Steve

    Great article! I’m glad somebody is finally exposing these frauds.

  • Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. – Marinka

  • Wendy

    I just wanted to add. You may hear something like “Miss Peschmann is attacking God’s anointed”. Cult leaders use that a lot to intimidate their followers into not asking questions or noticing when they abuse their influence. They want to silence any dissent.

    First of all, when Psalm 105:15 and 1 Chronicles 16:22 were written, there were really very few “anointed ones” like prophets and kings. But get this exciting news! That all changed at Pentecost when every born again believer received the Holy Spirit. Jesus said we would do greater works than He because He goes to the Father. That is a lot of “anointing” for ALL of us not just the few.

    John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believes on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

    I am not a theologian but a simple straight forward interpretation of that verse tells me that all true believers are the “Anointed ones” now. There are a lot of us who are true believers and many are in the audience of radio shows so it would seem to me that these guys are the ones who are actually doing the bulk of “touching God’s anointed”and doing His prophets harm when they scare us the way they do.

    1 Corinthians 14:31 says “ALL may prophesy.” And may I add that a true prophet does not have to claim or state that they are a “Prophet” or even a “Watchman” because it should be obvious by the fruit they bare. The gift confirms itself and needs no announcement but rather some humility because all things and all power are, after all, Christ’s not ours; we are only vessels and should not boast but abide.

    God has and will use a donkey if necessary. We seriously need to get over ourselves.

    I came across an excellent book that really helped me understand some things. May I recommend it to all who are upset, confused and disillusioned by what you read in these articles. I was upset too because I really loved these guys and trusted them. I wanted to believe them so I did. Now I suggest this book to you. I hope you will find it as helpful as I did: COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL: The #1 Best-selling Guide to Protection, Rescue, and Recovery from Destructive Cults Paperback – October 1, 1990 by Steven Hassan

  • Thank you so much for your insightful comments. I really appreciate them. I’m not a theologian either but I do know the basic principals of right and wrong. It is wrong and despicable to make a false allegation and to threaten anyone with legal action to cover it up. As awful as this story has been to report, you either tell the truth or you don’t. As uncomfortable as the truth may be, this reporting is also exposing the hypocrites. – Marinka

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  • Rick

    Qualye, Hagmann and Agent Wayne give a terrible name to all good Christians–to all good Christian men. This is the most disgusting report I’ve read in a long time. Thank you Miss Peschmann for having the courage to stand up to these lying bullies and letting us know who they really are.

    Miss Peschmann you are the real deal.

    Anyone who sanctions threatening a woman like Qualye and Agent Wayne is not fit to call themselves a Christian, let alone a man.

    As a Christian man I am repulsed by them and I apologize to Miss Peschmann on behalf of all Christians and people who are decent.

    From now on my donations will go to Miss Peschmann, who has shown more integrity and courage then they ever will.

  • Thank you so much for you very kind words. I really appreciate it more than you will ever know. — Marinka

  • Wendy

    Bravo to Rick!! I totally agree. It really is time for Christian men and women to stand up to what is going on here.

    We should expect high standards from very visible Christians. People will assume all Christians act badly because like it or not they do represent us to the world. We must say something. To do anything less is remiss.

    Many many of us are watching this situation very closely to see what all parties are doing and will do. We are watching, discussing and making decisions. We can only ignore so much.

    Obviously Miss Peschmann was very hurt and probably damaged in many ways by this series of unfortunate events. It must have been very embarrassing for her to have to admit that she was involved in this at all but she did. A
    very rare degree of integrity is on display here. She is to be commended. I hope I will be found so honest if put in a similar situation.

    “Christian love” should not extend to a cover up of wrong doing and “forgiveness should be proceeded by an apology. Anything short of that is a distortion of what the Bible says in Luke 17:4. Please note the word “repent”.

    King James Bible
    And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

    I don’t blame her for being angry because I would think that credibility would mean everything to a Journalist. Their reputation and livelihood depends on it. I don’t listen to people I have caught in lies. Do you?

    Hagmann needs to apologize. I have not heard or read that he has.

    What I did hear from his own mouth was the statement that the person who is reporting on him is “mentally unstable” and don’t believe what you hear on the internet. Is he talking about Miss Peschmann here?

    Is it a sign of mental instability to notice that you have been asked to report misinformation about an important government agency and then cry foul when you discover the truth? I think that a very sane thing to do.

    I don’t know if the parties involved read these comments, but if they do, please be assured that many of us are paying very close attention.

  • Ricky Ray

    Hello Ms. Peschmann;

    One old friend and ally sent me the articles You had written that confirm what I said for a long time about Contain & ID shillcraft on my old website that made me a lot of enemies in the highly manufactured and infiltrated Truther Movement post 9-11.

    My secretary saw this and posted me about this 2nd article about slander/defamation of Steve Quayle who is in Bozeman, Montana a place where a genetics DUMBS base is at oddly:

    http://americanholocaustcoming.blogspot.com/2011/09/important-things-to-understand-before.html

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/91924976/5/THE-UNDERGROUND-MILITARY-BASES

    http://truthseek.info/articles/3/54/page1/1742//cached/text/

    And I’ve always wondered WHY Quayle is there just north of the unstable caldera at Yellowstone Park where a genetics DUMBS base is at, then his false prophecies all the time for many years with his girlfriend Hawk.

    Or one has to wonder if Steve Quayle is related to Bush Srr. VP puppet Dan Quayle too… one researcher Quayle may have been a Veterinarian horse doctor upon a time possibly how he met his wife Ms. Quayle(???):

    http://wgna.com/loaded-handgun-detected-at-albany-international-airport/

    http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/montana/bozeman-woman-had-loaded-gun-at-new-york-airport/article_1b6be474-ead0-11e0-8ae1-001cc4c03286.html

    http://my1035.com/montana-woman-arrested-with-concealed-handgun-at-airport/

    http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Cops-Gun-taken-at-airport-2193859.php

    She sure looks like curious Big Label CMT singer Stephanie Quayle more than Steve…

    http://www.stephaniequayle.com/

    You are NOT alone as these same Judas Goats have attacked steller investigative journalists like You, Ms. Peschmann, and to set You up to report falsehoods under their aegis making NSA claims is a serious breach of ethics… and many others have caught them red-handed it only to have facts twisted and turned to slander/defamation against them too.

    So Your articles and many others confirm what I said about shillcraft as the sin of witchcraft these paranoia-for-profit $$$ snake oil dealers are pushing in pathological lies.

    Clearly they have the narcissist disorder full blown:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568

    http://psychcentral.com/disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder-symptoms/

    http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/traits.html

    But the most disturbing thing is they have clear sociopathy happening no remorse and their biographies read like Hare’s List for the psychopath/sociopath profile:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_Checklist

    Facet 1: Interpersonal

    Glibness/superficial charm

    Grandiose sense of self-worth

    Pathological lying

    Cunning/manipulative

    Facet 2: Affective

    Lack of remorse or guilt

    Emotionally shallow

    Callous/lack of empathy

    Failure to accept responsibility for own actions

    Facet 3: Lifestyle

    Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom

    Parasitic lifestyle

    Lack of realistic, long-term goals

    Impulsivity

    Irresponsibility

    Facet 4: Antisocial

    Poor behavioral controls

    Early behavioral problems

    Juvenile delinquency

    Revocation of conditional release

    Criminal versatility

    http://www.arkancide.com/psychopathy.htm

    I urge readers to research these men and compare to these symptoms:

    http://www.lovefraud.com/beware-the-sociopath/key-symptoms/

    http://www.lovefraud.com/beware-the-sociopath/how-to-spot-a-con/

    Lavish flattery

    Credentials—exaggerated and fabricated

    Building your trust

    The story doesn’t quite add up

    “I need an answer now.”

    Intense eye contact

    Isolation

    More detail is at the Lovefraud site I urge readers to scope and compare to these false alternative news gurus in the United Snakes of Amerika after 9-11 and all these venomous cottonmouth snakes selling doom porn as a perverse form of entertainment to people no less than mass media news on Cabal oops Cable TV that’s really opinionated pontification NOT investigative detached journalism.

    Indeed Steve and Douggie have countless flatulent platitudes they $ell on those boorish 3 hour online radio casts.. BUT… WHO is their Master REALLY???

    Because they all play by the FBI Cointelpro playbook non stop.

    http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9905a/jbcointelpro.html

    http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/COINTELPRO-FBI.docs.html

    http://vault.fbi.gov/cointel-pro

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

    Quote:
    COINTELPRO (an acronym for COunter INTELligence PROgram) was a series of covert, and at times illegal,[1][2] projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at surveying, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.[3] National Security Agency operation Project MINARET targeted the personal communications of leading Americans who criticized the Vietnam War, including Senators (e.g., Frank Church and Howard Baker), civil rights leaders, journalists, and athletes.[4][5]

    Shame on You Steviant and Douggie…

    Butt perhaps You two shills can have a nice Spanksgiving at the DUMBS genetic base in Bozeman, and Sheila Z. can be your leather and spikes clad Dominatrix until You use and discard her like You have so many others who get wise to Your deceit and criminal games…

    Since God-fraud church banger preachers Steviant and Douggie get off mis-quoting bible verses for their Contain & ID agendas sooo much then this for them they dare not quote because of… their pathological non stop LIES:

    Revelation 21 King James Version (KJV)

    7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

    27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

    Revelation 22 King James Version (KJV)

    14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

    15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    We know who You are.

  • RetiredVet

    No honor. I will never read Canada Free Press again. Judi McLeod has shown her true colours as an editor, publisher and journalist. She cannot be trusted.

  • Sue

    Marinka,

    Did you see? Hagmann’s intelligence insider, Wayne Willott has been posting over at the BlackNET Intelligence Channel for over a year. That’s him alright. W would talk about his silo on the Hagmann and Hagmann Report, the Royal family, bloodlines, Russia etc. What kind of scam are these guys pulling? Was Hagmann and McLeod paying him? Can they be held liable for fraud, making false allegations and misrepresentation??? I am sorry that Hagmann and McLeod threatened you and Willott covered up for him. Terrible.

    http://blacknetintel.blogspot.ca/2013/02/nastrovia-na-zdorovie-not-t-h-t-button.html

    Here is some of what Wayne Willott posted in case it gets scrubbed like the Powerball story. LOL! You really nailed him. It is outrageous that Hagmann and McLeod presented Willott as a clandestine intelligence insider and deceived people like that. They are a three ring circus.
    ————————————————-
    Wayne Willott • Mubin; The old twilight TV series had an episode where the aliens had a book that they showed to the dumb earthling….he was able to decipher the cover of the helpful Alien and under stood the book title was “to serve Man”, He though maybe they were going to share the cure to cancer or free energy etc…..he was later horrified to learn…..the it was a COOK BOOK!!!

    I posted a sticky note on the false hatch to my missile silo, for the Aliens….”Start with the Canadian’s….They’re tastier…
    3 days ago • Unlike 2

    Darjusch Bartsch • Aliens…ok, brothers yesterday I thought, I saw Elvis inside a German shopping mall maybe he was also an alien or CIA agent or even both of it ;-) Come on….what’s going on here!?
    3 days ago • Unlike 1

    Wayne Willott • Ask Putin and Medvedev…they’re the ones who made the threat….mine were honest answers based on the information available in the public sector Darjusch.
    2 days ago • Like

    Marina Knife • Hahaha – I love the post-it – Wayne!
    2 days ago • Like

    Hank Albarelli • they’re all in Congress… where we can see them just fine…but who wants to look?
    2 days ago • Like

    Hank Albarelli • all kidding aside: there is more to this than anyone understands…
    2 days ago • Like

    Wayne Willott • Thank you Marina: Also….do you understand that the various government leaders often conduct forein policy in plain sight with their little jabs and seeming missteps. Sometimes the microphone catching a comment by accident…is no accident? or a joke or spoof is intended to convey much more than a surface level message?

    I think in your case (Brits), the Queen falling to earth in the spoof at the Olympics opening Ceremony, like David Bowie in the movie ‘the man who fell to earth’….may have been her attempt at humor letting all the rif raff know that she (her blood line) fell to earth first and so were the first Aliens….That’s probably why she has Branson on the space stuff….get us outta here, we wanna go back home! That’s what Putin has been saying privately for the last several months. He’s got a joke that doesn’t translate well accusing the Royal family of being aliens, but then he doesn’t laugh and gives you a stern look, and you have to wonder how to respond (very bizarre!). So when you stitch the two comments together (Medvedev and Putin’s), it may be that he wants Obama to join him in calling out the Queen. Strange as it sounds this is the private behind the scenes bizarre strangeness that goes on…I think those Russian’s drink to much sometimes. I sure hope they don’t pass out at the desk and let their head land on the RED BUTTON!
    2 days ago • Like

    Wayne Willott • Hank; I actually think you are correct, but calling our leaders in Washington Alien’s?

    I do know that when you do a deep dive, if you don’t get the mixture right on your air it can make you punchy and hard to think straight…you may have a point…Aliens running our congress but thyr are used to breathing different air so they haven’t got the mixture right and are starting to get a little punchy. Crap, the whole planet could be being run by drunk and punchy aliens just trying to figure out how to get outta here…no wonder nuffin works right around here!
    2 days ago • Like

    Wayne Willott • Someone asked me privately about the joke…it in essence has to do with Prince Harry telling girlfriends that Royals have triple strand DNA as opposed to double and something about allowing them to be shape changers…perhaps someone else here knows the joke and can translate it better. The translator for me was too taken aback and couldn’t make it make sense easily.

    At the very least Hank, like you said, I actually think there is a story behind the story about what is happening here….Maybe Davidson needs to start another book!.
    2 days ago • Like

    W. Scott Malone • @Darjusch – That was me…@Wayne – My favorite recipe: ‘Long-Pig’ South Pacific-style–“tastes like chicken,” though the quality of Canadian ‘Bacon’ remains unreported in my quadrant…@Hank – My C-SPAN DigiatlHighDEF just ain’t hardwired enough, apparently…

    @Marina – We love YOUR sense of BlackHUMOR too…

    @Wayne – You mean something like POTUS Obamus microphone-malfunction with RUS-PM about certain US “elections” and Israel v. IRAN?
    ———————————–

    Thanks Marinka for exposing these frauds and bullies and for your courage to stand up against them. A lot of good people are being deceived by them.

    This is like watching Luke in real time. “For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.”

    Sue

  • Ken

    I have heard W on Hagmann’s show. It surprised me that he would go on so often or at all. I never felt he was credible. He likes to talk too much.

    I have known people with real security clearances and also an undercover cop. None of them talk much about anything even off the air so I know that they won’t do on radio or TV.

    None of them have extensive Linkedin pages or use Facebook. Everything is played down. It is almost as if they don’t exist. No photos of family on social media. Nothing.

    I doubt that W is an agent of or has real knowledge of any government secrets.

    Ken

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  • Maxwell Smart

    It’s so nice to know that others, like this brave journalist, have had the courage to stand up to these vile shills. Not just any shills, but the worst kind: CHRISTIAN ZIONIST SHILLS. Ever since Israel’s recent atrocities on Gaza, not a peep out of these so-called ‘Christians’ was heard. And then it all made perfect sense. I had been duped (having been a long time listener) and lulled into a false sense of ‘insecurity.’ How was this possible? How could they not admonish Israel for such blatant, genocidal crimes? Then, the picture became all the more larger. One only had to revisit ‘Bagman’s’ guests to realize the con: all Zionists, all cut from the same cloth. Larger still, as a frequent visitor to Quayle’s website, not a DAMN SINGLE WORD ON GAZA! From supposed Christians – which is what many of these poor Palestinian people actually are. And the picture became so clear it blew my mind. Alex Jones – the same thing (I would have taken a bullet for this fraud at one stage). No mention of Gaza. And who appears with some regularity on Zionwhores: Bagman and Bagman and Steve Quayle. But wait … two further Zionist shills also happen to receive equal billing: George Snoory of Hoax to Hoax and John BS Wells of Caravan to Israel infamy. It finally all made sense: it was a merry go round of Zionist shills spreading … nay, SILENCING and FAILING to shine a light on these Israeli cockroaches. I hit me like a bolt of lightning. I was born again. They had been hung by their own petards. Now I know who really runs the world, how they run it, and why. Unintended blow-back can be just brilliant. As Voltaire so aptly observed: ‘To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.’ Now I have my answer. And it had been staring me in the face all of this time. The two historical figures who are defamed throughout history the most just happen to be Hitler and Jesus Christ. The answer is of course the Jews.

    A message to people everywhere: NEVER EVER WATCH TALMUDVISION, AND NEVER, EVER, LISTEN TO THESE ZIONIST SHILLS IF YOU CHERISH THE TRUTH AND A LONG LIFE.

    Thanks Marinka. Thank you for your exposition of the truth.

  • Ken

    Hark, a miracle! Hagmann’s DHS insider has resurrected in Canada Free Press. But the “insider” gave his “final warning” in December 2013.

    Look at this: DHS insider gives final warning

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/60129

    Is Hagmann’s “DHS insider” the same person as the “Intelligence Insider” aka Wayne Willott? They sound the same.

    I read this today: DHS insider: Sydney to be the game changer

    canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/68327?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=c6e4bfd73c-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d8f503f036-c6e4bfd73c-291111725

  • Ed Hunter

    Marinka, thank you for helping expose these puffed-up zio-tard shills. What a peculiar group of lying morons, eh?

    Hey Steve-O, how’s that Russian invasion of America coming???

  • Happy New Year Ed! Thanks so much for weighing in. Nyet. :-) They are shameless.

  • Dan Capote

    Doug’s a moron. How he coined a living as a PI for 30 years is anyone’s guess, he’s the LAST person i’d hire, probably did nothing but adultery cases. No one w/ real juice would hire a clown like him. He makes Inspector Clousaeu look like a genius. Him and Joe are the Laurel and Hardy of the talkshow circuit, dumber than box of rocks, He writes well enough but in so doing i’m always reminded of the person in Searle’s Chinese Room Experiment.

    They are kind of sincere but they know full well it’s a lucrative game and are no less fleecing the flock than the State criminals they expose or faux-expose.

    As another commenter points out, NEVER a word about Israeli atrocities. As Judeo-Christians they worship Jews as the descendants of the Israelites and Judahites when nothing could be further from the truth; the Edomites – Israel and Judah’s ancient implacable enemy – are Jewry’s antecedents.

  • Hi Dan,

    Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it. All best, Marinka

  • Truthy1

    Thank You, Marinka Peschmann for have the fortitude and gumption to go head to head (brain to brain) with these despicable diabolical Heathens. I have/had been a long time listener and had detected discrepancies and mistakes in the broadcasts,especially relating to Scriptural “interpretations”. I was completely in the dark about this story until tonight when sound problems prompted me to look at the chat room where I saw a link to your story. You have confirmed what I was sensing about this group.I empathize with your dismay at being “caught up” in a lie. We will have to chalk this one up to experience,learn from it and move on. You are a living angel with the Spirit of truth under your wings. May your journeys be safe and your message spread far and wide. Love, Donald

  • asdf

    The Hagmann’s top sources on their favorite topics:

    Benghazi: Marinka Peshman but they don’t say the name + Ty Bolinger(?). I don’t pay attention to this particular topic so I don’t remember exactly who the male guest on Benghazi is.
    ISIS and Terrorism and Syria or Russia: W
    Loretta Fuddy: Butter D-zillion
    Death of the Dollar: V
    Illuminiti + Royal Bloodlines = W+?. I don’t listen to shows on this topic so it’s a little unclear.

  • Donald, thank you so much for your very kind words and sentiments. Words cannot express how much I appreciate them. Thanks for putting a smile on my face today. It is a priceless gift.

    From your lips to God’s ears. :-) All the best to you and yours, Marinka

  • Thanks for your comment and top sources list. May I expand on it?

    The mortgage crisis/fraud stories were also ripped off from my original and some of my subsequent reporting.

    http://marinkapeschmann.com/exclusive-ny-judge-in-largest-bankruptcy-case-in-history-receives-irs-sec-whistleblower-filing/

    After I broke that story, suddenly mortgage fraud became the big, hot news with this “insider” crowd in the alternative media. I think for some it still is.

    I am not an insider, just an investigative journalist doing the work. They also should have honored my content site policy. Everyone should have a similar policy. There used to be a time in media were integrity and ethics meant something.

    I think people would be wise to go directly to those who do the work, research and investigations. When so-called insiders and big talking “experts” don’t do the work, it’s like an echo chamber of broken telephone. Some of them say things that could blow up in their face one day. If they did the work and really had the backgrounds they claim to have, they would know that. As W knows I have warned him relentlessly about this.

    Thanks again for taking the time to write. Really helpful comment. All best, Marinka

  • Clarissa

    Think about this: Is it likely that a Righteous God who can not lie would use a liar or lies to promote His truth?

    These articles have been up for months an no one has refuted them. That tells me they CAN NOT.

    That my friend is very important information to know. WAKE UP AND FLEE FROM LIARS. THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS.

    LOL, I found this on youtube. This ol gal has had it and is very funny. Over all she has a great message. Give a listen

  • Hi Clarissa,

    Yes. It has been more than three months now. The first correction article was published on October 8, 2014. I wish they could have refuted my NSA correction articles. There are no words knowing that I was deliberately set up by this crew of so-called Christian truth tellers to report a false allegation against the NSA. No words. What kind of people do that?

    Thanks for the link and for taking the time to comment. I really appreciate it. Regards, – Marinka

  • Sure sounds like it.

    In short, if Hagmann says anything about this: Benghazi, Syria, Middle East, Russia, Economy/death of the dollar, World War III, “Renegade-in-chief” (Obama), “game changer,” Syria, “bigger picture,” ISIS, Illuminati, Royal Blood lines, Katy Perry, Hollywood etc. is W.

    For illuminati, Globalist, New World Order and bloodline talk, “W’s” super secret source is the Spaceman–Gary Bell’s radio show out of Toronto. W does sometimes acknowledge that.

  • Here are several examples that may help you know very well what I mean: First,
    there is the overweight woman at the office who always says she can’t slim down,
    yet she’s always there to have the free sweets inside the kitchen. Now everything is a lot easier due to coming of these diet pills.
    Vomiting can happen to anyone with strong enough stomach upset.

  • Dru Vaughn

    All Christians do act badly, if we didn’t, we would not need Jesus.

  • Dru Vaughn

    What is there to fear???????????? The Lord wrote his Bible (all of it) for us. It is NOT all butterflies and chocolate. Do you just want to here all the good so you will not be afraid? Fact….things will get very ugly before it get’s better by Christ’s return. God wrote this, not Steve, Doug or……….

  • Hi Dru, Thanks for taking the time to comment and welcome to my website. Forgive me I’m not clear about your point. While I’m not a bible expert I do know about “Thou shall not bear false witness.” That’s the issue here. Am I missing something? Thanks. – M

  • William Zabel

    Steve Quayle has been thrown off more radio stations than I can shake a stick at. Hawk is actually Greg Evanston a so-called former Kansas State Trooper. Hagmann is a fraud like many of these other alternative media types. They are all probably working for the same government they claim they are exposing.

  • Hi William,
    Thank you for taking the time to comment. Welcome. Whoa… Hawk is Greg Everson? What?! How do these fake named so-called “Christian” “truth tellers” keep up with themselves and their personas? Different scene when the mic is off. “Brothers in christ?” P-ulease. So many lies, and no bona fides. – All best, Marinka

  • jon bagar

    William, you can call kansas State Troopers yourself and the very co-operative and slightly PO desk officer will tell you all about Greg Evensen. He worked with them for about six years in the 70s and definitely did not retire from them. I was led to believe that he was no big deal. The officer did seem to know who he was by reputation and that he is exploiting his relationship/status or should I say non-status with them for leverage for some reason.

    For years now, Hawk has been rumored to be a Milo Chappell on different forum sites. An individual named Milo Chappell strangely appeared on the 2006 Scientology Clear list according to this site:

    http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/m/milo-g.-chappell.html

    But we must ask can it be proven that it may be at least likely that Milo is indeed Hawk? If you do a Google search you will find Milo’s home address. Now go and compare it with the business address that is listed in the “see more” drop down on what ‘appears’ to be Hawk’s Youtube account. You will find that Hawk lives approximately 3 (give or take) miles from the office address given. Not a bad commute!

    While you are visiting what ‘appears’ to be hawk’s youtube site, please the take time to look at the other people he lists in that “see more” drop down as it is time well spent as it will tell you much about business his business associations.

  • jon bagar

    Dan, I think you will find that everyone of them are “Christian Zionist”. If I am wrong please correct me but one wonders sometimes who funds them?

    I was brought up this way so I know the fearful grip this holds on ones mind. I am honestly afraid to buck the system. Having said that, I have to ask; is fear of God?

  • Rick Smith

    Nathan Leal was just on the Hagmann’s radio show, and the false prophet
    painted Donald Trump as America’s future Adolph Hitler.
    Where does he come off with such nonsense?
    Does he have a soft spot in his heart for the foreign invaders from south
    of the Rio Grande? Get out of politics, Nathan, and stick to whatever it is
    you’re good at. (which certainly ISN’T prophecy)

  • Hi Rick, Thanks for taking the time to comment. :-) Ugh. What can I say? Some things you simply cannot make up. Thankfully I do not know Nathan Leal. If these “prophets” and “Christian” watchmen were correct we would all be dead or living in a fema camp under martial law a long time ago. Thanks again for visiting. All best, Marinka.

  • Rick Smith

    I hesitate to question their sincerity, unless they are obvious
    conmen like Robert Tilton.
    I believe most of them that I’ve watched for the past forty years
    are sincerely wrong, and can do a lot of damage, that they’ll
    have to answer to the Lord for. I’m sure SOME of them are in
    it to make a living, they’re not hard to weed out. Wouldn’t want
    to be them when the angels come to do the REAL weeding
    though.

  • I am with you. I would think that God fearing people would be concerned about judgement day as well. I’m not a bible expert, but what part of Thou shall not bear false witness is not clear? There are honest ways to make a living.